Mingling of a particle of the Sacred Host into the chalice

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From this website we are told “This gesture then represents the unity of the Sacrament: the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus is truly and fully present in both the Precious Blood in the Chalice and the Sacred Host on the paten”

My question is does this gesture also symbolize we are about to receive the glorified not crucified body of Christ?
 
Do you mean because the separation of flesh and blood represents death, so their coming together would be resurrection? I have wondered this too. Subscribing.
 
Do you mean because the separation of flesh and blood represents death, so their coming together would be resurrection? I have wondered this too. Subscribing.
Exactly! 👍

I’m looking forward to reading people’s answers to this.
 
From this website we are told “This gesture then represents the unity of the Sacrament: the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus is truly and fully present in both the Precious Blood in the Chalice and the Sacred Host on the paten”

My question is does this gesture also symbolize we are about to receive the glorified not crucified body of Christ?
I don’t know exactly what these gestures mean within the Eucharist of the Catholic Church. They may have symbolic meaning but I don’t believe consciously that most people are thinking about it. I notice in the Eastern Church (Antiochian rite) that the priest puts all of the host and consecrated bread into the chalice. All I know is this. We are receiving the Glorified and Resurrected Christ’s Body in the Communion. The mingling of the host in the chalice may be a symbol of that whole consecrated Body and Blood of our Lord and its connection of receiving both His Body and Blood. I realised that the Catholic Church normally only gives the Host to its people but if I understand it right (someone can correct me if I am wrong) when one receives the Host one is receiving both the Body and Blood of our Glorified Lord.
 
From this website we are told “This gesture then represents the unity of the Sacrament: the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus is truly and fully present in both the Precious Blood in the Chalice and the Sacred Host on the paten”

My question is does this gesture also symbolize we are about to receive the glorified not crucified body of Christ?
The bread and wine are made one Christ.

From the earlier Liturgy of St. James we have:You have accepted the gifts, offerings, and fruits brought unto You as an odour of a sweet spiritual smell, and hast been pleased to sanctify them, and make them perfect, O good One, by the grace of Your Christ, and by the presence of Your all-holy Spirit.


*Then the Priest breaks the bread, and holds the half in his right hand, and the half in his left, and dips that in his right hand in the chalice, saying:—
*The union of the all-holy body and precious blood of our Lord and God and Saviour, Jesus Christ.
*Then he makes the sign of the cross on that in his left hand: then with that which has been signed the other half: then immediately he begins to divide, and before all to give to each chalice a single piece, saying:—
*It has been made one, and sanctified, and perfected, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, now and ever.
New Advent: newadvent.org/fathers/0717.htm
 
Yes, we are receiving the glorified resurrected Christ in the Eucharist. Since there is only one Christ, and He is risen. The separation of his body and blood on the cross is symbolized by the separate consecration of the host and chalice, so mixing them together symbolizes His resurrection, when the two were joined together again.

Of course, we believe it’s not merely a symbol, but is making present for us the once for all sacrifice of Christ. We are participating in that sacrifice at Mass…so awesome! Sorry I get excited when I think about it. 🙂

And Chimo, you are correct, when we receive from either species we are receiving the whole Christ, body, blood, soul and divinity. Again…so awesome!! 🙂
 
The General Instruction of the Roman Missal (GRIM) says…you are correct…but notice it says nothing about the Soul and Divinity…the priest has very specific power and “only” confects the “bread and wine into the Body & Blood of Our Lord Jesus”…as the Great Saint Thomas Aquinas says in his ***Summa Theologica ***…quoting his mentor…Great Saint Ambrose…he taught that…the Soul and Divinity are in fact present in the glorified Sacrament…but they are present by God’s Divine Nature…and natural concomitance…an excerpt is below the GRIM extract.

Your question is a very good logical one…the answer may seem a bit “theologically tough”…but it is straight forward and well worth the effort to “wrap your mind” around it…but in the end…it is still a profound and deep Mystery. Thank god for all these great Doctors of the Church…Saints Thomas Aquinas and Ambrose. In the end…the final word: …its always God’s grace…its then our response in Faith to that grace…its giving our assent of belief to all the Magisterial teachings of the Church…so in a small but similar way…like the Blessed Virgin Mary’s “Fiat–Yes”:… we hear and accept what the the Angel Gabriel said to her …“with God nothing will be impossible”…and we respond…Amen!

Pax Christi
General Instruction of the Roman Missal
Chapter II: The Structure of the Mass, Its Elements, and Its Parts
The Fraction of the Bread
  1. The Priest breaks the Eucharistic Bread, with the assistance, if the case requires, of the Deacon or a concelebrant. The gesture of breaking bread done by Christ at the Last Supper, which in apostolic times gave the entire Eucharistic Action its name, signifies that the many faithful are made one body
    (1 Cor 10:17) by receiving Communion from the one Bread of Life, which is Christ, who for the salvation of the world died and rose again. The fraction or breaking of bread is begun after the sign of peace and is carried out with proper reverence, and should not be unnecessarily prolonged or accorded exaggerated importance. This rite is reserved to the Priest and the Deacon.
The Priest breaks the Bread and puts a piece of the host into the chalice to signify the unity of the Body and Blood of the Lord in the work of salvation, namely, of the Body of Jesus Christ, living and glorious. The supplication Agnus Dei (Lamb of God) is usually sung by the choir or cantor with the congregation replying; or at least recited aloud. This invocation accompanies the fraction of the bread and, for this reason, may be repeated as many times as necessary until the rite has been completed. The final time it concludes with the words grant us peace.
Summa Theologica --Third Part
Question 76. The way in which Christ is in this sacrament
On the contrary, Ambrose says (De Officiis): “Christ is in this sacrament.”
I answer that**, It is absolutely necessary to confess according to Catholic faith that the entire Christ is in this sacrament**. Yet we must know that there is something of Christ in this sacrament in a twofold manner: first, as it were, by the power of the sacrament. secondly, from natural concomitance. By the power of the sacrament, there is under the species of this sacrament that into which the pre-existing substance of the bread and wine is changed, as expressed by the words of the form, which are effective in this as in the other sacraments; for instance, by the words: “This is My body,” or, “This is My blood.” But from natural concomitance there is also in this sacrament that which is really united with that thing wherein the aforesaid conversion is terminated. For if any two things be really united, then wherever the one is really, there must the other also be: since things really united together are only distinguished by an operation of the mind.
Reply to Objection 1. Because the change of the bread and wine is not terminated at the Godhead or the soul of Christ, it follows as a consequence that the Godhead or the soul of Christ is in this sacrament not by the power of the sacrament, but from real concomitance. For since the Godhead never set aside the assumed body, wherever the body of Christ is, there, of necessity, must the Godhead be; and therefore it is necessary for the Godhead to be in this sacrament concomitantly with His body. Hence we read in the profession of faith at Ephesus (P. I., chap. xxvi): "We are made partakers of the body and blood of Christ, not as taking common flesh, nor as of a holy man united to the Word in dignity, but the truly life-giving flesh of the Word Himself."
On the other hand, His soul was truly separated from His body, as stated above (Question 50, Article 5). And therefore had this sacrament been celebrated during those three days when He was dead, the soul of Christ would not have been there, neither by the power of the sacrament, nor from real concomitance. But since “Christ rising from the dead dieth now no more” (Romans 6:9), His soul is always really united with His body. And therefore in this sacrament the body indeed of Christ is present by the power of the sacrament, but His soul from real concomitance.
 
It seems some of the posters thus far take the question as “Do we receive the glorified body?” or “Do we receive the same under either species?” whereas I understood the question as “Given that we receive the glorified body, is the priest dropping a particle into the chalice supposed to symbolize that reality, or does it symbolize something else?”

Googling around I find that Fr. James P. Schmitz gives this answer which I shorten here. Note especially the last paragraph.

The action of the priest that you speak of is called the “fermentum” rite. . . . This practice goes back to at least the 4th century. . . The bishop would send an acolyte to give a particle of the Eucharist to the priests who were not able to attend that Mass . . . The priest would drop the particle into his chalice . . . showing that the priests were in communion with their bishop, even though they celebrated the Eucharist in different places. This practice seems to have lasted until the eighth or ninth century.

In the eighth century, a pope from Syria used this “commingling” rite as a sign of the resurrection. Since the separated bread and wine, or body and blood of Christ, were considered a sign of the death of Jesus, (remember how the blood flowed from the side of Christ’s body, when he was pierced with the lance on the cross?), the commingling (or mingling of the consecrated bread & wine) was a sign of the reunion of the body and blood of Christ at the resurrection. And so this ancient rite continues even today.

So apparently the answer is yes. (I believe the Syrian pope he’s referring to is Gregory III.)
 
There’s a lot of symbolism behind this wonderful liturgical action. From Praying the Mass: The Prayers of the Priest (pp. 205-209)…

Closely related to the Fraction Rite is the mingling of the Body with the Blood in the chalice. (GIRM 83) The priest quietly says these words:Hæc commíxtio Córporis et Sánguinis Dómini nostri Iesu Christi
** fiat accipiéntibus nobis in vitam ætérnam.**

May this mingling of the Body and Blood … John 6:55; 1 Cor. 10:16
of our Lord Jesus Christ
bring eternal life to us who receive it. … John 6:27,54; Rom. 6:22; 1 John 5:11By these words, the priest prays that the Eucharist might be effective in our lives as the “medicine of immortality,” as it was called by St. Ignatius of Antioch in the early second century. (Catechism 1331, 1405) A simple but profound action accompanies this prayer: the priest takes a small piece of the Host and places it in the chalice, thus mingling the two species of bread and wine.

Although the faithful in the congregation are singing while all this is taking place, everyone should be aware of what is happening and of its great significance. The priest is praying not only for himself but for all who partake of the Body and Blood of our Lord. He is, in effect, praying that we have properly prepared ourselves for Holy Communion; he will pray specifically for himself in a moment.

This mingling has accrued several interpretations over the centuries, seven of which we will consider, each derived from the physical action of uniting the two species of the Eucharist (bread and wine) in the chalice.

The Unity of the Sacrament
The earliest documents that explain the meaning of this union describe it as a declaration that these two species constitute a single whole, that it is one sacrament (Jungmann, The Mass, p. 208), signifying “the unity of the Body and Blood of the Lord in the work of salvation.” (GIRM 83) This point of doctrine has been made by many commentators on the liturgy. Theodore of Mopsuestia explains three times in his liturgical commentary that “although these elements are two, they are nevertheless one in power.” St. Thomas Aquinas addresses the question of “whether the Eucharist is one sacrament or several” in his Summa Theologica, and states that because the Eucharist is the sacrament of the Church’s unity and a sacrament “bears the likeness of the reality of which it is the sacrament,” thus the Eucharist is one sacrament, as the Church is one. He concludes that although “the bread and wine are materially several signs,” the sacrament Itself is “formally and perfectively one.” (Summa Theologiae III, 73, 2) To put it plainly, the Eucharist is not two sacraments, but one sacrament made present under two forms.

This interpretation does not challenge the doctrine of concomitance (which states that the whole Christ is received under the form of bread or under the form of wine). Instead, it confirms this doctrine by physically displaying the inherent unity of the two forms.

A Symbol of the Resurrection
It was only a short theological step from that first meaning to this second one. If the consecrated bread is a sign of the Body of the Lord, and the consecrated wine is a sign of His Blood, and the separate consecration of both was a sign of His death… what event is represented by their union? His Resurrection, of course! This makes the mingling the continuation of the liturgical re-presentation of the Paschal mystery. Having witnessed His Passion and death in the Offertory and Consecration, we now behold His Resurrection. This union is hidden from our view by the chalice, for no one witnessed the very moment of that glorious and ineffable mystery of the Resurrection.

What this means is that the Body that we receive in the Eucharist is the “living and glorious” – that is, resurrected and glorified – “Body of Jesus Christ.” (GIRM 83) His Body is not injured or torn apart when we receive Him in Communion, because glorified bodies enjoy impassibility – from the Latin im- (“not”) and passio (“suffer”), meaning “unable to suffer.” (Summa Theologiae III, 81, 3)

Participation in Christ’s Suffering
Although Christ no longer suffers, He certainly did endure great pains in His Passion. In the Garden of Gethsemane, He asked the Father, “if it be possible, let this chalice pass from me.” (Matt. 26:39; cf. 26:42) The cup is a common Old Testament image symbolizing the wrath of God which is being poured out or drunk. (cf. Ps. 75:8; Isa. 51:17; Jer. 25:15)

Whatever other symbolism the cup in Jesus’ prayer in Gethsemane has, it also represents the great sorrow and suffering that Jesus would bear. To that end, the chalice used at Mass (which contains the Precious Blood that was poured out in the Passion) can be seen as Christ’s “cup of sufferings.” (Douay Catechism, p. 133) Because the mingling (a sign of the Resurrection) takes place in the chalice (a sign of the Passion), the Douay Catechism gives the interpretation that we cannot share in the fruits of the Resurrection unless we are willing to share in His suffering as well, as St. Paul wrote to the Romans. (cf. Rom. 8:17)

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There’s a lot of symbolism behind this wonderful liturgical action. From Praying the Mass: The Prayers of the Priest (pp. 205-209)…

The Unity of the Church
The fourth interpretation is based upon two ancient (but discontinued) Roman customs, called the sancta and the fermentum, named for the two fragments of the Eucharistic bread used in these rites which attested to the unity of the Church across time and space. (Ordo Romanus Primus, pp. 106-109)

In the sancta (meaning “holy”), the Pope would place in the chalice a portion of consecrated bread, reserved from a previous Mass he had celebrated. This signified that the Eucharist was one sacrifice throughout all time, uniting the communicants at this Mass with those from the previous Mass down through the weeks, months, and years.

In the fermentum (meaning “leavening”), the Pope sent a portion of the consecrated bread to priests throughout the city for them to put into the chalice at their next Mass. Pope St. Innocent I describes this practice in the same letter to Decentius mentioned above. The fermentum signified that the Eucharist is one sacrifice through all space, and that those priests were celebrating the Eucharist in union with the Pope. Union with the local bishop is an important part of the celebration of the Eucharist, as expressed by St. Ignatius of Antioch in two of his letters from the second century: “Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is administered either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it.” (Epistle to the Smyrnaens 8) “There is one flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ, and one cup to show forth the unity of His blood; one altar; as there is one bishop, along with the presbytery and deacons, my fellow-servants.” (Epistle to the Philadelphians 4)

The Members of the Church
Varying interpretations were given to the traditional three pieces into which the Host was divided: Christ’s Body alive, buried, and resurrected; the piercing of His Body in His hands, feet, and side; the Persons of the Holy Trinity. But a prevailing interpretation was that they stood for the three divisions of the Church: triumphant in Heaven, militant on earth, and suffering in Purgatory. (Summa Theologiae III, 83, 5; The Glories of the Catholic Church, pp. 260-261)

A Guarantor of Peace
In the Extraordinary Form, the mingling comes before the Sign of Peace. Because the mingling represents the Resurrection, and peace was the first gift given by Jesus to His Apostles after He was raised from the dead, the two rites (the mingling and the Sign of Peace) were seen to be mystically connected. (The Glories of the Catholic Church, p. 262) The mingling is then the guarantor of that peace: Christ, being raised, assures us of His lasting peace.

Manifesting the Agnus Dei
Another mystical interpretation of the mingling sees that it corresponds to the three verses of the Agnus Dei. While it is permissible to repeat the first two verses as long as necessary until the Fraction Rite is finished (GIRM 83), its traditional form is two verses ending with “have mercy on us” and one verse ending with “grant us peace.”

As mentioned above, the two Eucharistic species (bread and wine) represent “the unity of the Body and Blood of the Lord in the work of salvation” which gained us God’s mercy. (GIRM 83) They come together as one in the chalice, representing the Resurrection, which guarantees our peace. Thus the mingling mirrors our sung supplication to the Lamb of God that “appropriately concludes with the twofold cry for mercy and the single cry for peace.” (The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, p. 750)
 
Closely related to the Fraction Rite is the mingling of the Body with the Blood in the chalice. (GIRM 83) The priest quietly says these words:Hæc commíxtio Córporis et Sánguinis Dómini nostri Iesu Christi
** fiat accipiéntibus nobis in vitam ætérnam.**
This is the gist of our faith. Very beautifully stated in the Latin.

FWIW, I find the wording here important. For example, had it been worded Corporis Sanguinisque, one could make a better case that they were separate. But that’s not the case, though the English translation would be the same.
 
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