Misogyny and Abortion (this is not a pro-abortion argument)

[Linux]

I can’t help but think that the history of Misogyny (sexism, abuse of women, lack of rights) against Women is partly or indirectly responsible for the success of the pro-choice movement. This makes sense given that one of the main arguments for pro-choice is the belief that if governments forced women to take pregnancy to full term then this would be an abuse against women’s bodies, adding to a long list of abuses against women in mans history.

If we had an alternative history where women were always respected and given the same rights as men, then perhaps the pro-choice movement wouldn’t have been as strong and perhaps less women would be having abortions.

It seems to me that psychologically speaking the powerful desire for abortion rights could be the result of women’s oppression, and thus the right to abortion is in fact the rallying cry against a history of sexism and abuse.

What do you think?

 

[Fomalhaut]

I can’t help but think that the history of Misogyny (sexism, abuse of women, lack of rights) against Women is partly or indirectly responsible for the success of the pro-choice movement. This makes sense given that one of the main arguments for pro-choice is the belief that if governments forced women to take pregnancy to full term then this would be an abuse against women’s bodies, adding to a long list of abuses against women in mans history.

If we had an alternative history where women were always respected and given the same rights as men, then perhaps the pro-choice movement wouldn’t have been as strong and perhaps less women would be having abortions.

It seems to me that psychologically speaking the powerful desire for abortion rights could be the result of women’s oppression, and thus the right to abortion is in fact the rallying cry against a history of sexism and abuse.

What do you think?

I agree, birth control in general allowed women to get out of the traditional family scheme in which an unmarried woman was considered a failure. Is it a good thing, a bad thing ? I believe it’s a good thing, I’m sure many people here disagree.

 

[InJesusItrust]

Why do the same people think that Asians aborting female fetuses is a bad thing if a fetus is not a person?

 

[mrsd7]

I do think that misogyny did originally contribute to women’s desire to have all the benefits of a “male” world such as no-strings-attached encounters, for example.

However, many of the original suffragettes were big on chastity (“purity for men” was apparently one of the catch-cries) and felt that instead of women attempting to imitate men, we should encourage men to imitate us. To a certain extent, this has happened with the greater role many men take in child-rearing / housework etc nowadays.

I think that it’s sad that to be feminist now you have to be pro-abortion (according to many feminist groups, anyway) when this is a denial of our basic femininity. Being free to be mothers without judgement is true feminism, yet children and motherhood are often seen as another barrier on the path to a great career and financial success which amount to what exactly in the long run? As Christians, we recognise that this is a false path to happiness and that the true model for feminism should really be Mary.

 

[Linux]

Why do the same people think that Asians aborting female fetuses is a bad thing if a fetus is not a person?

Are they being forced to abort foetuses? If they are, then that would be a reason that pro-abortionist would be offended since that would a disrespectful abuse of women.

 

[VeritasLuxMea]

I can’t help but think that the history of Misogyny (sexism, abuse of women, lack of rights) against Women is partly or indirectly responsible for the success of the pro-choice movement. This makes sense given that one of the main arguments for pro-choice is the belief that if governments forced women to take pregnancy to full term then this would be an abuse against women’s bodies, adding to a long list of abuses against women in mans history.

If we had an alternative history where women were always respected and given the same rights as men, then perhaps the pro-choice movement wouldn’t have been as strong and perhaps less women would be having abortions.

It seems to me that psychologically speaking the powerful desire for abortion rights could be the result of women’s oppression, and thus the right to abortion is in fact the rallying cry against a history of sexism and abuse.

What do you think?

I agree, probably in the same way that poor moral teaching and parental abuse lead to nihilism. You are on to something, friend.

 

[MarcoPolo]

I can’t help but think that the history of Misogyny (sexism, abuse of women, lack of rights) against Women is partly or indirectly responsible for the success of the pro-choice movement. This makes sense given that one of the main arguments for pro-choice is the belief that if governments forced women to take pregnancy to full term then this would be an abuse against women’s bodies, adding to a long list of abuses against women in mans history.

If we had an alternative history where women were always respected and given the same rights as men, then perhaps the pro-choice movement wouldn’t have been as strong and perhaps less women would be having abortions.

It seems to me that psychologically speaking the powerful desire for abortion rights could be the result of women’s oppression, and thus the right to abortion is in fact the rallying cry against a history of sexism and abuse.

What do you think?

I think that argument may have been used as traction. But there is a certain bitterness among some feminist extremists that reveal a more prevalent psychological factor that drives them to this demand. That and the devil’s “you should do whatever you want” philosophy native to the justification of many sinful behaviors among any gender. Ultimately, whether misogyny is a factor or not, abortion remains intrinsically evil.

 

[tonyrey]

I think your argument is true but it has to be taken in conjunction with the rejection of Christian morality when it is an obstacle to the fulfilment of physical desires…