Missal for Byzantine Rite

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Hey y’all!!

DFH and I are looking into changing rites, from the Latin to the Byzantine. There are many reasons why, that I will not get into here.

Here’s my question:
Where can I find a missal for the Byzantine Rite? I have plenty of missals for the OF and the EF in the Latin Rite, but I cannot seem to find one for the Byzantine Rite! And I would like to know what it is going on when we attend the Byzantine Divine Liturgy!

Any and all help y’all can offer would be awesome!
 
The first thing to remember would be that Byzantines would not use a Latin word like Missal.
 
PatienceAndLove said:
Hey y’all!!

DFH and I are looking into changing rites, from the Latin to the Byzantine. There are many reasons why, that I will not get into here.

Here’s my question:
Where can I find a missal for the Byzantine Rite? I have plenty of missals for the OF and the EF in the Latin Rite, but I cannot seem to find one for the Byzantine Rite! And I would like to know what it is going on when we attend the Byzantine Divine Liturgy!

Any and all help y’all can offer would be awesome!
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Publications of the Byzantine Catholic Church (USA):

mci.archpitt.org/legacy/Publications2.html
 
PatienceAndLove said:
Hey y’all!!

DFH and I are looking into changing rites, from the Latin to the Byzantine. There are many reasons why, that I will not get into here.

Here’s my question:
Where can I find a missal for the Byzantine Rite? I have plenty of missals for the OF and the EF in the Latin Rite, but I cannot seem to find one for the Byzantine Rite! And I would like to know what it is going on when we attend the Byzantine Divine Liturgy!

Any and all help y’all can offer would be awesome!
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A liturgical book? Does your parish not have any? Which jurisdiction are you going over to? The Ruthenians? You can go to Byzantine Seminary Press.
 
PatienceAndLove said:
which do i need for attending the Divine Liturgy?
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If the parish is Ruthenian (Byzantine Catholic Church), this is the book you will find in the pews. http://mci.archpitt.org/legacy/servicebooks/DivineLiturgiesOrdinary.pdf

Many parishes also have a smaller book available that does not have all the music and changeable parts for each feast. .

Keep in mind that it is a bit hard to follow, as it has all the options and a number of musical settings for each hymn.

The Metropolitan Cantor Institute website is a treasure trove of information on the liturgy, including musical samples of most of the services. mci.archpitt.org/legacy/index.html

Edit:

This is the smaller book that my parish has. It is sufficient for following the liturgy, but does not have music, nor the prayers for each day.
byzantineseminarypress.com/the-divine-liturgy-of-our-holy-father-john-chrysostom-paperback/
 
PaulfromIowa said:
The first thing to remember would be that Byzantines would not use a Latin word like Missal.
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Language is meant for mutual intelligibility. I’m generally thought of as “radically” traditional and I don’t take any issue with missal. That’s the English word for a book for the mass.

Anyway, I recommend the above mentioned seminary press. Although, again, it depends on your jurisdiction what you might find more useful.
 
MorEphrem said:
Language is meant for mutual intelligibility. I’m generally thought of as “radically” traditional and I don’t take any issue with missal. That’s the English word for a book for the mass.
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Yes and it’s like the word “Mass” which is so often reviled in this forum. It’s really a generic term in English, just as “quddas” is a generic term in Arabic for the same thing.
MorEphrem said:
Anyway, I recommend the above mentioned seminary press. Although, again, it depends on your jurisdiction what you might find more useful.
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It’s a little pricey, but Abp Raya’s Byzantine Daily Worship is a very nice volume that includes a lot more than simply the DL of St John Chrysostom, It also has some rubrical notes on certain variations in the Slavic tradition.
 
malphono said:
Yes and it’s like the word “Mass” which is so often reviled in this forum. It’s really a generic term in English, just as “quddas” is a generic term in Arabic for the same thing.
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Hm, all of my Coptic Orthodox friends call DL mass. I know many who call it mass, but no eastern orthodox (but i don’t know eastern orthodox or byzantine xians anyway)
 
malphono said:
It’s a little pricey, but Abp Raya’s Byzantine Daily Worship is a very nice volume that includes a lot more than simply the DL of St John Chrysostom, It also has some rubrical notes on certain variations in the Slavic tradition.
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I would not recommend Raya’s Byzantine Daily Worship. It was excellent for its time, but it is out of date and I do not believe that this it is used by any of the English speaking Byzantine Catholic churches today. Sophia Press, melkite.org/products-page/ , puts out a number of beautiful Byzantine prayer books including “The Publicans Prayer Books” and “The Horologion”. (They also publish a very complete set of books for the Byzantine Divine Office: 25 books in all which would be used with “The Horologion”.) These would probably be most useful at Melkite Catholic service. If you want a book that can be using at a Ruthenian Byzantine Catholic Divine Liturgy, then the texts from Byzantine Seminary press or mci.archpitt.org recommended above are perfect, though they do lack most of the parts proper to the priest if you want to study those texts. (They can be found online is you search for Byzantine Divine Liturgy text or something similar.) If you are going to a Ukrainian Catholic Church, you might be interested in “The Divine Liturgy: An Anthology for Worship” available from sheptytskyinstitute.ca/resources/publications/ .

I own copies of all of the books listed, except for the 25 Divine Office books. They are all nice books, but the translations and music are different, so I wouldn’t recommend purchasing any of them since it doesn’t sound like you have been to a Byzantine Liturgy yet and having the proper text for that church would be most helpful. Most churches have pew books.

I pray your Byzantine experience is a good one.
Christ is risen!
 
Hospodi_pomilui said:
I would not recommend Raya’s Byzantine Daily Worship. It was excellent for its time, but it is out of date and I do not believe that this it is used by any of the English speaking Byzantine Catholic churches today. Sophia Press, melkite.org/products-page/ , puts out a number of beautiful Byzantine prayer books including “The Publicans Prayer Books” and “The Horologion”. (They also publish a very complete set of books for the Byzantine Divine Office: 25 books in all which would be used with “The Horologion”.) These would probably be most useful at Melkite Catholic service. If you want a book that can be using at a Ruthenian Byzantine Catholic Divine Liturgy, then the texts from Byzantine Seminary press or mci.archpitt.org recommended above are perfect, though they do lack most of the parts proper to the priest if you want to study those texts. (They can be found online is you search for Byzantine Divine Liturgy text or something similar.) If you are going to a Ukrainian Catholic Church, you might be interested in “The Divine Liturgy: An Anthology for Worship” available from sheptytskyinstitute.ca/resources/publications/ .

I own copies of all of the books listed, except for the 25 Divine Office books. They are all nice books, but the translations and music are different, so I wouldn’t recommend purchasing any of them since it doesn’t sound like you have been to a Byzantine Liturgy yet and having the proper text for that church would be most helpful. Most churches have pew books.

I pray your Byzantine experience is a good one.
Christ is risen!
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I agree completely here. I own most of the books referenced by “Hospodi,” including some of the Menaion from the Melkite Greek Catholic Eparchy of Newton. The best bet for the time being is to actually attend your local Byzantine Divine Liturgy, find out what translation/books they are using, then acquire the books used at your local parish. Otherwise you can be dropping a serious amount of money on books that may not be useful for Sunday Liturgy in your particular parish.
 
Yeah, have to echo what others have said. Keep in mind that while the Latin Church has maybe a handful of liturgical books, the East has LIBRARIES of liturgical books. It is often said that you may not celebrate the same liturgy ever again in your lifetime because of the wide variety of liturgical rubrics.
 
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