Missouri Stem Cell Initiative

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As many of you probably know, next month Missourians are going to vote on the Stem Cell Initiative. A friend of mine who’s VERY much in support of embryonic stem cell research went on a mini tirade a few nights ago. She said that the Catholic Church is “misinformed” about the facts, a couple of them being it’s claim that this doesn’t involve cloning.
My friend also said the Church’s claim that college aged women will be selling their “embryos” (I’m not sure if she misspoke and meant to say ‘eggs’ or if she believes they’re talking about selling embryos) for money is false and that she’s pretty sure there is, or will be, a law to prevent that.

She came up with other points but now I’m really confused and wanted some information about her claims and links to non-Catholic, secular information that supports the Church’s position.
Thanks in advance.
 
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She has no scientific case. It is the exact same process that was used to make Dolly. The amendment defines cloning as requiring the implantation of the created embryo.

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Of course it’s cloning. They even taught us that in our secular, state-funded Biology class.

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Dr.Bombay said:
Of course it’s cloning. They even taught us that in our secular, state-funded Biology class.

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The cloning that would be done if this passes would be “reproductive cloning” by somatic cell nuclear transplant", correct?

What about my friends’ assertion that women, especialy young college students, won’t be able to sell their eggs?
 
They don’t “sell” thier eggs per say, as they are compensated for thier time.
 
Trelow said:
They don’t “sell” thier eggs per say, as they are compensated for thier time.
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What’s the difference, really? They’re being financially compensated in the donation, right?:confused:
 
Trelow said:
They don’t “sell” thier eggs per say, as they are compensated for thier time.
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Then why do they compensate differently for time based on hair color, height and SAT score?

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For anyone interested in the MO Stem Cell thing, please check out this very brief video.

God Bless,
RyanL
 
Faith1960 said:
The cloning that would be done if this passes would be “reproductive cloning” by somatic cell nuclear transplant", correct?

What about my friends’ assertion that women, especialy young college students, won’t be able to sell their eggs?
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I don’t know any thing about college kids selling their eggs.

It’s therapeutic cloning, which is different from reproductive cloning. I’ll just quote my Bio textbook:

“There are two possible ways to carry out therapeutic cloning. The first way is to use the exact same procedure as reproductive cloning, except embryonic cells, called embryonic stem cells, are separated and each is subjected to a treatment that causes it to develop into a particular type of cell, such as red blood cells, muscle cells, nerve cells. There are ethical concerns about this type of therapeutic cloning because if the embryo had been allowed to continue development, it would have become an individual.”* Inquiry Into Life* p. 508

The thing about this amendment in Missouri is, the supporters are claiming it’s not cloning, which is a bald faced lie. In fact, they have the nerve to claim the amendment outlaws cloning.

This amendment is supported almost entirely by a billionaire named Jim Stowers, who founded a “medical research” institute of some sort in a ritzy part of Kansas City. He’s pumped millions so far into the campaign, as this story in our diocesan newspaper points out. Billionaires don’t spend money unless they expect to get a return. And I suspect Jimmy and his cronies are going to become quite wealthy (wealthier) if Nazi eugenics is legalized in our state. And if all these miracle cures are forthcoming, I further suspect the poor people in the inner city of St. Louis and Kansas City won’t be first in line to benefit. (They’ll probably be handing out the magic cures like candy at the society balls, tho.)

But then, fairy dust magic cures aren’t really the issue, are they? Nope. It’s money. Filthy, stinking, rotten money. I’m amazed how many billionaires seem to hate babies. Look at all the anti-life orgs that get millions every year from them. It’s disgusting. I guess money causes you to lose your moral compass and decide that the fewer people in the world, the more money you can have.
 
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