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Oh, I don’t know…there’s something sweet about that slow process of discovery. My vote is to not rush it.
But at the same time, if the guy is not getting positive feedback, he may decide that she isn’t interested and back off.

And what ever you do don’t say that you only date friends because his definition of what a friend is and yours may be different. Trust me, I know from experience.
Of course my advice assumes you are interested in him.
 
not trying to derail… but chaplain… she? I wasn’t aware that there are female chaplains.

As for your question he sounds like a nice shy guy that has been taught to treat women well… but yes most likely interested in pursuing you romantically.
 
But at the same time, if the guy is not getting positive feedback, he may decide that she isn’t interested and back off.

And what ever you do don’t say that you only date friends because his definition of what a friend is and yours may be different. Trust me, I know from experience.
Of course my advice assumes you are interested in him.
Yes, that is true. Plus if it’s someone like me, and the girl keeps saying no, and suddenly they become interested one day, it will stay ‘no’ from our side as well 😉

I always thought “I don’t date friends” is a bit odd, dating someone that is not a friend is a reciper for disaster, random feelings and no sold foundation.

Why would you date someone that you barely know. Might as well date Satan.
 
Dating is about discerning marriage. Something as serious as discernment of a vocation, IMHO, should be far removed from playing head games or guessing. It requires honesty and maturity.

Takes us back to the old debate, is dating just a fun hobby or is it intended as a step toward a lifetime commitment.

If it is just all for fun, then, be coy and play he-loves-me-he-loves-me-not.
 
Dating is about discerning marriage. Something as serious as discernment of a vocation, IMHO, should be far removed from playing head games or guessing. It requires honesty and maturity.

Takes us back to the old debate, is dating just a fun hobby or is it intended as a step toward a lifetime commitment.

If it is just all for fun, then, be coy and play he-loves-me-he-loves-me-not.
Courting is about discerning marriage.

Dating is more of a fling socially.

But I agree with your opiniong on discernment of a vocation.
 
I always thought “I don’t date friends” is a bit odd, dating someone that is not a friend is a reciper for disaster, random feelings and no sold foundation.

Why would you date someone that you barely know. Might as well date Satan.
My wife and I agree that we don’t date someone we don’t know. However, my definition of a friend is someone that I know and I trust and is a fairly small subset of people. Her definition of friend is someone that she has met on a regular basis, which fits my idea of an acquaintance. So what she calls friends, I called acquaintance and we both agreed on the type of person we would date, it just took longer to get there. It was all a matter of semantics. Obviously we eventually found our way around our misunderstanding.
 
not trying to derail… but chaplain… she? I wasn’t aware that there are female chaplains.

As for your question he sounds like a nice shy guy that has been taught to treat women well… but yes most likely interested in pursuing you romantically.
Well, that’s her position on campus, though she corrected us in the beginning by pointing out that a Catholic chaplain really is an ordained priest. On campus she’s associate chaplain.

I agree that dating leads to marriage and I’m not trying to play headgames. He is a sweetie though and I’m just trying to see where this leads. We both maintain that we’re just friends when we’re asked but at the same time, I wonder…

I do return his affection though. It’s not like I brush him off. I’m very affectionate as well. It’s just I tend to read into things and I get confused.
 
I was always best at NOT interpreting ‘he likes me’ signals appropriately… as I’ve always preferred guys as friends 🤷 … so I had opposite surprises 😊 .
Can’t always have it the way you want. 😉
(I’d probably be the kind of gal to bring wine and a video and hope for a relaxing evening with a male friend 😃 … and not even CONSIDER ANYTHING else)
Hah. And he would fall for you for that very thing. Just because you didn’t expect anything, he could fall for you. Makes sense? I believe it does.
Why isn’t there a manual for this stuff? :mad:
Because with a manual, it would be much worse. 🙂
 
I’m a guy, and I’m pretty sure if a guy came on Saturday night with two bottles of wine, he has a little more than friendship on his mind.

And I don’t mean that in a sexual way.
Depends how you define friendship. If we don’t use a cap of shallowness, then not. Friends could be extremely attached back in the old day. These days if you wound up without a previous arrangement at a lady friend’s doorstep, it would be assumed you were hitting on her.
 
That’s the thing when dealing with people, one cannot really have much certainty. Especially this can be the case, when you haven’t known the person all that long. Love, be it with a spouse, with a friend or whereever on the spectrum, always opens one up to vulnerability and rejection. Without that though, you’ll never open yourself up to the joys. If your anxious give a prayer, and remember even when you are rejected, you still have your Lord to fall back upon.
 
I always thought “I don’t date friends” is a bit odd, dating someone that is not a friend is a reciper for disaster, random feelings and no sold foundation.
I used to degrade that rule in my thoughts and speech, but with a bit more experience, I understood at least a part of what made people make such a rule. Generally, friendships have it really difficult to survive the crash of a romance. Wonder if it ever truly is just friendship again or if it’s still a form of platonic love. Not even a desire of any physical kind whatsoever, but something secret and exclusive which exists only between the given two and never dies. Perhaps for this reason losing a romantic interest means losing a friend. This is perhaps why some people won’t take the risk.

On the other hand, marrying a person who is not a friend sounds like a bad idea to me. That would be marrying a stranger, wouldn’t it? Can one have friends closer than spouse, or can’t one? I believe one can’t. Shouldn’t at least. Well, maybe not in the sense of, “ought not to,” but I think it would be pretty sad. The very perspective of performing certain marital duties with a stranger should be sad and scary and I almost pity women to whom it has happened over ages.

Once upon a time, I said I’d sooner marry an old friend than a new crush.
 
I’m a guy, and I’m pretty sure if a guy came on Saturday night with two bottles of wine, he has a little more than friendship on his mind.

And I don’t mean that in a sexual way.
Yeah, that’s what you would think… but no… that was definitely NOT the case.
 
Next time you’re together at Mass, when we all show eachother a “sign of peace”…Why not just lean over and kiss the guy… (instead of shaking his hand) and THEN see what happens??

An affectionate/appreciative kiss isn’t a marriage proposal, nor is it an invitation to bed… it’s a show of affection about 1-1/2 levels up from a handshake.

(Why is it when a post about a concerned touch or kiss (between adults) goes directly into examination of intent, Vocations, or “Thou shalt not touch another opposite sex human unless you intend to Marry”???.. we’re still in the “like them” mode)

Oh, and BTW… a six-pack & a video is a great way to get an emotionally fulfilling nights sleep - and an “E-ticket” ride to the chiropractor! Did it - and my then girlfriend (now wife) and I fell asleep on her couch. At 3:30am after our various limbs “woke up”, then the vertebra started complaining!
 
Next time you’re together at Mass, when we all show eachother a “sign of peace”…Why not just lean over and kiss the guy… (instead of shaking his hand) and THEN see what happens??
Errr, sir, that’s mass… I’d have no compunctions kissing someone close to me on the cheek, but kissing someone out of the blue, especially if it’s not just cheek, wouldn’t be appropriate at mass. All the more so given he might be uncomfortable with it if he doesn’t have the kind of feelings for the Opening Poster, or especially if he already has a different object of his affections.
An affectionate/appreciative kiss isn’t a marriage proposal, nor is it an invitation to bed… it’s a show of affection about 1-1/2 levels up from a handshake.
An affectionate kiss is not 1-1/2 levels from a handshake because it’s a romantic sign. You can shake hands with everyone, but you don’t swap “affectionate/appreciative” kiss with everyone unless it’s just on the cheek and you’re very outgoing. If the kiss is on the lips it must require consent and some reverence, not a surprise assault at mass, where one comes for different things.
(Why is it when a post about a concerned touch or kiss (between adults) goes directly into examination of intent, Vocations, or “Thou shalt not touch another opposite sex human unless you intend to Marry”???.. we’re still in the “like them” mode)
Why do you make the distinction between adults and children if you maintain it’s just liking? If it were merely just liking, then it would be appropriate for children. Examination of intent is very much in order because kissing various people of the opposite gender on the lips on impulse is not the way a responsible adult should conduct himself. Your arguments could easily be extrapolated to justify “spin the bottle” as an innocent game because it’s for adults and for fun and it stops at kissing.
 
Yeah, I’m not sure I would be too comfortable kissing a guy on the lips if I wasn’t even sure he had feelings for me. I don’t mind kisses on the cheek because friends can do that and as he has kissed me on the cheek, it wouldn’t be weird if I did the same to him. I’m affectionate but cautious about my affection and usually am not the first to give it to someone. I usually like to wait and see.

It’s not that he’s affectionate that has me wondering. Many of my guy friends, especially the ones who are Catholic or at least Christian, are very affectionate. It’s the fact that this guy is not only very affectionate but the way he expresses it (guys don’t usually cup a girl’s cheek unless he’s into her), the way he looks at me, the attention he pays to me (yes, this is the one who offered to cook for me), and other things. I have been asked if we were together or if we knew each other before school (we didn’t) I’m just not sure
 
(guys don’t usually cup a girl’s cheek unless he’s into her), the way he looks at me, the attention he pays to me (yes, this is the one who offered to cook for me),
Yeah, now that you say, I tend to agree. Perhaps if he were treating you like a sister, that could happen too. I vaguely recall similar incidents in my life. People are much more affectionate than normal in such situations as what you described. In fact, I think the gesture is more brotherly than anything else, it’s just that one isn’t normally so close with female friends except the loved one, so she tends to be the only recipient except maybe the guy’s sisters. Well, at any rate, what’s sure is that he cares a lot.
 
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