Moral Dilemma- Advice for a friend with same sex attraction

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This has been bothering me for a while, so I sort of need to get it off my chest. I hope everybody who reads this will try to patiently understand my situation and my friend’s situation. Helpful advice and friendly criticism is welcome. It’s really difficult to try to explain, but I desperately need your help and prayers.

A close friend of mine, let’s call him Jack, has stopped going to Church in the past few months. He once was a devout and dedicated Catholic, serving as a Sunday school catechist, being a member of our college Catholic fellowship, and in general leading a good Christian life. He graduated college, started work, but has stopped going to weekly mass. At first I thought he stopped going to Church because he was too busy. Also, whenever I see him, he’s always talking about the Da Vinci Code, and talking about how fascinating it is and how it makes him think.

I recently found out from another mutual friend that Jack suffers from same sex attraction (SSA). Supposedly, his attraction has been getting stronger the past couple years. Jack has told a few of our friends, but he hasn’t told me. Out of our group of Catholic friends, I’m considered by them to be most devoted to the faith. I think he is afraid to tell me because he would think that I would be disappointed at him, hate him, or even try to cut off our friendship. This isn’t true, I could never hate him, no matter what he did. And i’ll only stop being his friend if he pushes me away.

Also, I was told by our mutual friend who revealed this to me that Jack has been going to some gay dance clubs. I live in Berkeley, so such things are very common in San Francisco. Also, I was told that two of his current roommates are also gay and lead gay lifestyles (to my knowledge they aren’t Christian). This is what hurt the most. When I heard this news, I felt my heart sink to my stomach. I knew that people with SSA have been given a VERY HEAVY cross to carry in their lives. And the fact that Jack seems to be pursuing a gay lifestyle suggests that he’s not interested in carrying his cross.

My views on homosexuality are clear: homosexual actions are gravely immoral and never acceptable. I believe this is God’s law, and I never plan on compromising or giving in on this belief. But it almost seems that out of our friends, I’m going to have to give Jack the tough message. I know that Jack knows the Church’s teachings on homosexuality, but he’s trying in his mind to justify his actions. I think this is also why he’s so fascinated with the Da Vinci Code; it allows him to believe that the Catholic Church is fallible, thus giving him reason to reject the Church’s teachings on infallibility. I can’t even begin to imagine the confusion and frustration going on in his mind.

I get the strong feeling that most of our other Catholic friends don’t intend on letting Jack know that physically acting upon his SSA is immoral. Most of them are cafeteria Catholics, and they don’t take their faith very seriously. When Jack eventually confronts me and tells me about his SSA, I’ve thought long and hard about what I must do.

I don’t plan on confronting him, I’m praying that God will give him the strength to approach me as a man and as a friend to tell me. When he approaches me, I plan on simply being a support for him without being judgmental. I won’t tell him that he needs to live a celibate lifestyle right away, but I will ease that into him charitably later on. But first, I want to encourage him to come back to the Church, come back to the sacraments. If he agrees to come to Church, then I’ll ask him to go to confession with me one day before he takes the Eucharist.

I desperately hope that he won’t turn down God’s grace. I feel very saddened that my good friend has been given such a heavy cross, but I’d like to help him carry it. I’m also in a dilemma because many of my other friends might portray me as close-minded, a fundamentalist, and a homophobe. This is partly why this is all so difficult. Jack having 2 gay roommates doesn’t help either. It really feels like everybody is against me. Sometimes I just get emotional and tear up thinking how hard Jack must have it. I also get frustrated and very angry at my friends and Jack’s roommates. I know that love conquers all, but I’m finding it so hard to love those who are misleading my close friend. I’ve been having a lot of midterms lately, but it’s so hard to study with all this on my mind.

I know what I must do, I know that I can’t compromise my values and simply ignore this, pretending like somebody else will help Jack. I want him to come back to Church, lead a celibate lifestyle, and maybe later be blessed with the gift of a wonderful girl that might truly make him happy.
 
So this is my dilemma. In the worst case scenario, I’ll lose Jack, a few friends, and be branded as a bigot. I’m praying it doesn’t come to this, but if it be God’s will, I will be ready to follow him. I’m so afraid about what will happen. So please, pray for me, for Jack, and for my friends. Please let me not be the only one to share what the gospel requires of him. It’ll be a lot easier for Jack to reject his faith of all his friends tell him to do what makes him happy, and one close-minded rigorist Catholic tells him he needs to stop.

-One Worried Catholic
 
If Jack has been so involved in the church in the past he already knows the church teaching on homosexuality.

If he comes to you, you may gently want to suggest he contact Courage couragerc.net/
It’s a Catholic organization that helps those who struggle with same sex attraction.

On their site they have a group called Encourage for family and friends of those with SSA. I would consider contacted them for some knowledgable advice on your situation.

I will keep both you and “Jack” in my prayers.
 
Peace,

Firstly, be assured of God’s unconditional love, mercy and compassion upon Jack.

People who suffer from SSA, don’t do it as a choice, they do it; generally due to unavoidable circumstances and events that have built up and the disordered desired become so overwhelming that they cannot stand it anymore.

Be careful, not to judge, quite often in our society, we judge these people, label them as gay and condemn them. There is NO condemnation for those in Christ Jesus.

Further, I do not believe it would be God’s will to challenge anyone in this matter to the extent that they or your mutual friends get so angry that they don’t like you.

Jesus draw people to himself, by being their friend, supportive and friendly. You need to build up the relationship, and only when he brings the subject up (which he will only do with those who he can completely trust 100%), then encourage him to pray more.

Be careful how you invite him back to the Sacraments, because quite often it can come across as - do this because it’s right!

Using words like Immoral, wrong or evil will automatically allow the person to condemn themselves or feel condemned.

Rather, if you go along the lines of “Jesus wouldn’t want this…” or “Jesus would prefer that you were free…” then this can still be challenging but less condemning.

I’m purely speaking from experience of helping myself and others become free!

May the Grace of Our Lord and Our Lady feel Jack’s Heart!

In His Grace,
LionHeart
 
I am definitely praying for you and your friend. I am sure this isn’t easy for you. I too have a friend who has SSA. He does act on it. He did not stop going to church though, which I would never want him to stop coming I am glad he still does. He still comes to mass every sunday and is active in church. I dont know what to say cause he was really afraid to tell me about at first even. I would never stop being someones friend no matter what their sin, but that doesnt mean I have to like the sin. And dont get me wrong, I have my own sins to deal with so I would never judge my friend for this. I am just afraid that he thinks it is ok and that he can still go to communion. I know he knows the teachings of the church though, so I do not know how to approach him on this. I mean how do you tell someone oh you shouldnt be going to communion if you are doing that. I mean wouldnt that be judgemental? It has been bothering me. So I really do feel for you. I have been going through this situation too, and I keep hearing the Holy Father’s words “Be Not Afraid” ringing in my heart. I just have to keep on praying as to how to talk to my friend about this.

You are in my thoughts and prayers,
God Bless,
Kerri
 
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FrancisDeSales:
I recently found out from another mutual friend that Jack suffers from same sex attraction (SSA). Supposedly, his attraction has been getting stronger the past couple years. Jack has told a few of our friends, but he hasn’t told me. .
jack has not shared this with you, you are discussing his private life with others behind his back, what kind of friends do you have that you feel free to make such unwarranted intrusions? sounds like a healthy consideration of real friendship and Christian charity would be very well place. no Christian has the right or need to speculate about the moral life or spiritual condition of another person. the only person with that right is the priest in the confessional, or the spiritual director or religious superior of that person. If you don’t fit in any of those categories, let Jack attend to the state of his soul, and you attend to yours. If I sound abrupt it is because I am holding back a lot of what I could be saying.
 
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puzzleannie:
jack has not shared this with you, you are discussing his private life with others behind his back, what kind of friends do you have that you feel free to make such unwarranted intrusions? sounds like a healthy consideration of real friendship and Christian charity would be very well place. no Christian has the right or need to speculate about the moral life or spiritual condition of another person. the only person with that right is the priest in the confessional, or the spiritual director or religious superior of that person. If you don’t fit in any of those categories, let Jack attend to the state of his soul, and you attend to yours. If I sound abrupt it is because I am holding back a lot of what I could be saying.
I agree if he isnt telling him anything about it then there is no reason to get involved, but what if someone openly tells you about their life and you know it is not the teaching of the church? That is where I get confused to I tell that person they are doing wrong or do I butt out? I am just asking you opinion cause I have a problem with that cause I dont know how to handle those situations. Do I just say look I dont want to hear about that part of your life or do I just not say nothing at all?

God Bless, Kerri
 
I basically have the same questions, what is our obligations if we know two folks are living in a homosexual situation ? First off, if we happen to know one or both are Catholic and second if neither are Catholic.

Do we have an obligation to warn them that their life style is sinful ? Is that solely the responsibility of their parents ? What if they are adults ? as friends, relatives, or aquaintances do we say anything ? or should we mind our own business ? and how does one go about bringing such a topic up ? do you just state matter of factly what the Churches’ position is ?

wc
 
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wcknight:
I basically have the same questions, what is our obligations if we know two folks are living in a homosexual situation ? First off, if we happen to know one or both are Catholic and second if neither are Catholic.

Do we have an obligation to warn them that their life style is sinful ? Is that solely the responsibility of their parents ? What if they are adults ? as friends, relatives, or aquaintances do we say anything ? or should we mind our own business ? and how does one go about bringing such a topic up ? do you just state matter of factly what the Churches’ position is ?

wc
Exactly,
If we dont say anything at all, are we responsible for them staying in that immoral lifestyle? Also I would like everyone I know to be in Heaven someday, so if I were to tell them that what they were doing isnt morally right I would not be trying to be ugly. I am just worried about their slavation. So where is it that you draw the line?

God Bless,
Kerri
 
We shouldn’t say anything if someone is living an immoral life?

NOT TRUE AT ALL!!!

We have a moral, and spiritual responsibility to pray for this person, and in a gentle way challenge, not condemn them.

I can’t recall the scripture, but St Paul himself said if someone is in error we should correct them in Love, and if they don’t listen, then do it infront of someone else etc…

A true friend would correct someone in error in a loving non-judgemental manner!

Pray, love and pray - The answer will come!

Peace,
Lionheart
 
I’d like to thank everybody for their responses. They’ve been most helpful. Most appreciated though are your prayers. Thank you!

puzzleannie,

I believe you misconstrued some points of my post. I feel that your post was rude and upsetting. I’ll try my best to clear anything up.
jack has not shared this with you, you are discussing his private life with others behind his back, what kind of friends do you have that you feel free to make such unwarranted intrusions?
Jack’s sexual orientation is not private, he has revealed his orientation to many people and has generally made it private. The whole point of my dilemma is that he will need to eventually tell me since friends don’t keep secrets like this from each other. He is having a hard time, and I don’t know exactly how to deal with this situation. I don’t know how I’ll talk to him about this.

Although what we were talking about was unknown to Jack, we were not saying anything negative. Both of us were genuinely concerned for his spiritual life. For you to assume otherwise is unfair.
sounds like a healthy consideration of real friendship and Christian charity would be very well place.
Don’t judge me. You have no right to judge me. I am a real friend to Jack because I genuinely care for him. Most of our friends simply say, “Do whatever he wants, do whatever makes him happy.” My conscience prevents me from taking that approach. I believe that true Christian freedom and liberty is found in following Christ and obeying him to the best of our ability.
no Christian has the right or need to speculate about the moral life or spiritual condition of another person. the only person with that right is the priest in the confessional, or the spiritual director or religious superior of that person.
I’m sorry, but I must disagree. No Christian has the right to speculate on anybody’s spiritual life. Period. No priest may speculate upon what I do. Having said that, I am not “speculating” about Jack. Jack has chosen to make his SSA public, and a concerned friend told me what Jack made public about his lifestyle. Note that Jack has taken the steps to make this public. He has already told many people, and most people are aware of this.
If you don’t fit in any of those categories, let Jack attend to the state of his soul, and you attend to yours.
It’s been pointed out that we have an obligation to charitably correct our brothers and sisters. I also believe that it would be a sin if I were to simply lay back and let others persist in a sinful lifestyle.
If I sound abrupt it is because I am holding back a lot of what I could be saying.
Your response was quite uncharitable. I did not appreciate your judgmental tone. If you cannot offer your criticisms in a compassionate and charitable manner, please refrain from posting.
 
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