Just out of curiosity, why would it be better to place a child with two gay men vs. an orphanage?Say for instance that a baby is abandoned in a rural community and no one in that small town wants to take the child in except a male gay couple. Can the state entrust the child to them instead of putting the kid in an orphanage?
To cut to the spirit of it… Yes, it is permissible. You might also ask if a man should be given nothing but ketchup to eat for a month, with the alternative of starving to death.Say for instance that a baby is abandoned in a rural community and no one in that small town wants to take the child in except a male gay couple. Can the state entrust the child to them instead of putting the kid in an orphanage?
The problem with orphanages is that they don’t work very well. Children raised in institutions typically have developmental delays and a variety of psychological disorders, even when they are well fed and exercised. Having parents really does help children to thrive. Some orphanages do better than others by having more personal contact and stimulating activities, but they don’t come close to family care.Just out of curiosity, why would it be better to place a child with two gay men vs. an orphanage?
It also seems like our society believes that orphanages are evil institutions, so much so that people would rather abort a child then place the child in an orphanage.
I think the better question is, “what does society have against orphanages?”
What really is your question? Clearly the State “can” do as you say. If you meant “may”, then you need to be clear under which system of authority the question is posed. If the legal system, then in most places the answer is yes. If you refer to some moral system, the analysis may be more complex according to the tenets of that system.Say for instance that a baby is abandoned in a rural community and no one in that small town wants to take the child in except a male gay couple. Can the state entrust the child to them instead of putting the kid in an orphanage?
Of course have a mom & a dad is better than an orphanage. But is being adopted by homosexual parents better than growing up in a GOOD orphanage? I don’t know the answer, but it’s worth asking.The problem with orphanages is that they don’t work very well. Children raised in institutions typically have developmental delays and a variety of psychological disorders, even when they are well fed and exercised. Having parents really does help children to thrive. Some orphanages do better than others by having more personal contact and stimulating activities, but they don’t come close to family care.
It is a good question.Of course have a mom & a dad is better than an orphanage. But is being adopted by homosexual parents better than growing up in a GOOD orphanage? I don’t know the answer, but it’s worth asking.
So it’s better being brought up in an environment with no loving parents then not.I personally think that the child needs both a mother and father. I guess being raised in an orphanage is better than being raised by a gay couple.
At least we can say with certainty your first sentence does not follow from your first! Perhaps they were intended as two separate statements?I personally think that the child needs both a mother and father. I guess being raised in an orphanage is better than being raised by a gay couple.
This small rural community doesn’t exist, except in your mind.Say for instance that a baby is abandoned in a rural community and no one in that small town wants to take the child in except a male gay couple. Can the state entrust the child to them instead of putting the kid in an orphanage?
They are two separate statements.At least we can say with certainty your first sentence does not follow from your first! Perhaps they were intended as two separate statements?
There is an orphanage down the street from my grandmother’s house. They are still around, but there are less orphans because over 50 million babies have been killed since Roe v Wade.We don’t have orphanages anymore.
Never thought about it that way, no one sees orphans because they are all dead…“progress” is sad.There is an orphanage down the street from my grandmother’s house. They are still around, but there are less orphans because over 50 million babies have been killed since Roe v Wade.
I stand corrected, I thought all had been replaced with foster care.There is an orphanage down the street from my grandmother’s house. They are still around, but there are less orphans because over 50 million babies have been killed since Roe v Wade.
It it clear how Contraceptive availability (and willingness to use it) could see an increase in out of wedlock sex, and thus pregnancies due to imperfect use and effectiveness, but it is not so clear that legalised abortion could have that effect.Oddly, Roe v Wade and contraceptives dramatically increased the number of out of wedlock births, the babies that might end up in an orphanage.
I’ll support your speculation on why the number has increased. I’d add that shotgun marriages have been all but eliminated with availability of abortion.It it clear how Contraceptive availability (and willingness to use it) could see an increase in out of wedlock sex, and thus pregnancies due to imperfect use and effectiveness, but it is not so clear that legalised abortion could have that effect.
Are you considering that the availability of legalised abortion increases the perceived freedom to engage in out of wedlock sex (given it offers a means to “deal with any accidents”), but when push comes to shove, the affected women do not pursue the abortion - leading to increased births?
My understanding is that there is considerable demand these days from persons willing to adopt newborn babies. Thus any stay in an orphanage or foster care for babies is usually brief.
My understanding is that states have 18 months to make an adoption or family reunification plan for children. A child can have both plans running concurrently, and if the birth parents are unable to comply with requirements, the plan for adoption should go ahead.I understand healthy babies and children have no problem finding homes, if they are actually available to be adopted. Most kids in the system however are in limbo, they are being kept away from their parents but also aren’t available for adoption.