More gays executed in Iran

[LtTony]

direland.typepad.com/direland/2005/08/two_new_gay_exe.html

Yes, it does seem extremely harsh. But that’s not my point. I have been told that there is no Muslim state in existence today; that the policies of these mis-identified nations are the result of secular societies/politics in those countries.
I’m confused. These fellows were executed under Muslim law, according to the news stories.

Coincidently, I posted a question on this subject about three weeks ago on whyislam.org. (For me at least, it’s more interesting now in the context of the latest news than it was at the time.)
whyislam.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4500&KW=LtTony

 

[Shenango]

LtTony:

I have been told that there is no Muslim state in existence today; that the policies of these mis-identified nations are the result of secular societies/politics in those countries.
I’m confused.

LtTony,

Nothing is black-and-white, my friend. When Muslims say that there is no true Islamic state in the world today, they mean that there is no complete one, that is, one that complies with Shari’ah 100% of the time. Most of the states today don’t derive their laws from Islam at all. Some, like Saudi Arabia and Iran, derive SOME (and I will emphasize **SOME **) of their laws from Islam, and yet very many others not from Islam.

In this example, what Iran is doing is justifiably derived from Islamic law. So Iran is acting like an Islamic state IN THIS CASE. But it does not do that in EVERY case. There was a case not too long ago, also in Iran, where a judge sentenced a young woman accused of fornication to death because he was angry at her for acting belligerent in court. Now, that’s clearly crossing the line, and not from Islam. One cannot be executed merely for fornication, or for pissing off a judge. It wasn’t just an abuse, but a flagrant outrage of one. Yet at the time, there were still people who misunderstood that as the penalty demanded in Islam for someone who committed fornication or pissed off a judge. I myself remember refuting charges made against my faith based on that case, and had to make people understand that Islam would have viewed this conduct as wrong.

The point is that each case has its own merit as to whether it’s in accordance with Islamic law or not. Because these countries have legal systems that co-mingle Islamic laws with un-Islamic ones, it makes it impossible for you, the outsider, looking in, without understanding Islam’s laws, to formulate a consistent standard by which to judge an action that government takes as in accordance with Islamic law or not. It could vary literally from case to case.

 

[LtTony]

Thanks for the explanation, Shenango. It is confusing for outsiders. Thanks for your understanding.

Jim

 

[mjdonnelly]

Peaceful society.

 

[Kathy_McAvinue]

Pakistan is a Moslem nation. It severed from India. That is what the world would look like if the world where Moslem.