Mormonism salvation favors the wealthy?

[lukewarm]

Most people who Mormonism considers likely to be saved never pay any tithing. These are the people who never heard of Mormonism when they were alive and then receive salvation from a Mormon baptism for the dead after they are in the “spirit world.” That doesn’t even account for the millions who have died prior to the age of 8 who are automatically saved because they didn’t live long enough. The best thing that can happen to you from a Mormon point of view is to never have heard of Mormonism until after you’re dead. More poor people are likely to be saved than rich people simply because there are more poor people. And the Mormon missionaries really are out there looking for anyone but the poor. We were actively discouraged from trying to convert poor people when I was a missionary – we were told to knock doors in middle class-rich areas for safety reasons if nothing else.

So the next time a Mormon missionary comes to my house I can hold my hands over my ears and yell la la la la I can’t hear you. I want to wait until I die before I make a decision. Because if I hear your Gospel now and I don’t get a burning in my bosom I’m completely screwed…

 

[BartBurk]

So the next time a Mormon missionary comes to my house I can hold my hands over my ears and yell la la la la I can’t hear you. I want to wait until I die before I make a decision. Because if I hear your Gospel now and I don’t get a burning in my bosom I’m completely screwed…

Exactly …

 

[zerinus]

So the next time a Mormon missionary comes to my house I can hold my hands over my ears and yell la la la la I can’t hear you. I want to wait until I die before I make a decision. Because if I hear your Gospel now and I don’t get a burning in my bosom I’m completely screwed…

Those who have had the message of the Restored gospel preached to them in this life, with the witness of the Spirit that inevitably accompanies it, and rejected it, and do not repent of it while in this life, will not get a second chance in the next life. Don’t be fooled by what other people say. LDS know their doctrine better than apostates do:

D&C 68:

8 Go ye into all the world, preach the gospel to every creature, acting in the authority which I have given you, baptizing in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

9 And he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, and he that believeth not shall be damned.

D&C 84:

74 Verily, verily, I say unto you, they who believe not on your words, and are not baptized in water in my name, for the remission of their sins, that they may receive the Holy Ghost, shall be damned, and shall not come into my Father’s kingdom where my Father and I am.

75 And this revelation unto you, and commandment, is in force from this very hour upon all the world, and the gospel is unto all who have not received it.

D&C 112:

28 But purify your hearts before me; and then go ye into all the world, and preach my gospel unto every creature who has not received it;

29 And he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, and he that believeth not, and is not baptized, shall be damned.

30 For unto you, the Twelve, and those, the First Presidency, who are appointed with you to be your counselors and your leaders, is the power of this priesthood given, for the last days and for the last time, in the which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.

D&C 84:

42 And wo unto all those who come not unto this priesthood which ye have received, which I now confirm upon you who are present this day, by mine own voice out of the heavens; and even I have given the heavenly hosts and mine angels charge concerning you.

zerinus

 

[dosdog]

Those who have had the message :
zerinus

Public revelation is binding on all Christians, but private revelation is binding only on those who receive it. The Catholic Church teaches that public revelation was completed, and therefore was concluded, with the death of the last apostle (Vatican II, Dei Verbum 4), but private revelation has continued.
catholic.com/library/private_revelation.asp

"Throughout the ages, there have been so-called ‘private’ revelations, some of which have been recognized by the authority of the Church. They do not belong, however, to the deposit of faith. It is not their role to improve or complete Christ’s definitive revelation, but to help live more fully by it in a certain period of history.

When the Church approves private revelations, she declares only that there is nothing in them contrary faith or good morals, and that they may be read without danger or even with profit; no obligation is thereby imposed on the faithful to believe them. Speaking of such revelations as (e.g.) those of St. Hildegard (approved in part by Eugenius III), St. Bridget (by Boniface IX), and St. Catherine of Siena (by Gregory XI) Benedict XIV says:

“It is not obligatory nor even possible to give them the assent of Catholic faith, but only of human faith, in conformity with the dictates of prudence, which presents them to us as probable and worthy of pius belief)” (De canon., III, liii, xxii, II).

Since the Church herself has no providential protection in the area of private revelations, the bishop could be in error. We are not obliged to believe him, or even the Pope himself in such a case.
catholic-pages.com/bvm/private_revelations.asp
catholicculture.org/docs/most/getwork.cfm?worknum=162
catholicplanet.com/apparitions/discernment.htm

The Catholic Laity: Priests, Prophets and Kings

According to Lumen Gentium, the Church, in its twofold ministry toward its own members and toward those outside, shares in Jesus’ threefold office of Priest, Prophet and King, that is, it participates in Jesus’ ministry to sanctify, to teach and to govern (see 10-13). While bishops, priests and deacons exercise, within the Church, the ministries of sanctifying, teaching and governing through the power and authority bestowed upon them at their sacramental ordination, all Catholic lay men and women also share in this threefold ministry of Christ. Catholic lay men and women, by their baptismal and confirmational character, are empowered, in Christ through the Holy Spirit, to be priests, prophets and kings and so come to share in the Church’s ministry of sanctification, teaching and governing
wf-f.org/06-3CatholicLaity.html

BISHOP LAURENCE RYAN - As a theologian and bishop he was tireless in encouraging lay people to fully participate in the life of the church and to exercise in full their baptismal vocation as priest prophet and king
catholiccommunications.ie/Pressrel/16-october-2003.html

 

[Rbt_Southwell]

dosdog:

Thank you for the yeoman job you do with links and information.

We Christians appreciate it and I am sure you know that it is lost on mormon ears like Zerinus.

He prefers pontificating on his blog when asked the ‘difficult’ question.

But then, the most basic questions about why one believes the way they do is also the most important. And the one whose truth many are afraid to find out.

I guess that explains Zerinus’ furtive lurking in the Forum threads.

Keep up the good work, you are a blessed man among us!

Robert