Morning Routine----gone bad

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Hi (and good morning). Every day I wake up with a prayer on my lips and a song in my heart. Then, I wake up the kids for school. I begin losing patience with them, especially my 9-year-old son, almost immediately. They dilly dally around and I have to remind them of everything they need to do (i.e. get dressed, brush teeth, make bed, feed pets). My 11-year-old daughter is not too bad, but my son is leaving me so frustrated. I end up yelling at him and then feeling terrible. When I drop him off at school, I tell him I love him and give him a kiss (in the car, of course where no one can see), but I know that I’ve started him off on a bad note. Right now, I feel like running up to the school and telling him that I’m sorry. The only problem is I don’t think he’s sorry for being smart alecky and disobedient. Any suggestions?

God Bless
Giannawannabe
 
I understand your predicament. I have had my children and now my daughter is back living with us with her 9-year old. And he dilly-dallys in the morning. She screams to get him moving…and he is awaken an hour before leaving.

When she is on days and he gives me that routine, I get him to bed a half of an hour earlier that day. Yesterday he did it again and now he is going to bed 1 hour earlier than he did the week before. (from 9PM to 8PM). There is marked difference.

Some children need more sleep than others. But this way, there is not even a word of anger flying. He even took the garbage and recycling out! That was a miracle! 😃

Does this make sense? :confused:

Christ is risen…truly He is risen!
Shoshana
 
Absolutely makes sense Shoshana. I think I’ll try that tonight. My problem is by the time we get done with school, homework, baseball practice, etc. I forget about the morning problems he gave me. I’ll put a big note on the frig to remind me. He hates going to bed, so this would be a good discipline for him.

God Bless
Giannawannabe
 
You are a mother, you are a human being, we all have these moments.
I can tell you what day is worse for this family! Sunday mornings!
 
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Giannawannabe:
Hi (and good morning). Every day I wake up with a prayer on my lips and a song in my heart. Then, I wake up the kids for school. I begin losing patience with them, especially my 9-year-old son, almost immediately. They dilly dally around and I have to remind them of everything they need to do (i.e. get dressed, brush teeth, make bed, feed pets). My 11-year-old daughter is not too bad, but my son is leaving me so frustrated. I end up yelling at him and then feeling terrible. When I drop him off at school, I tell him I love him and give him a kiss (in the car, of course where no one can see), but I know that I’ve started him off on a bad note. Right now, I feel like running up to the school and telling him that I’m sorry. The only problem is I don’t think he’s sorry for being smart alecky and disobedient. Any suggestions?

God Bless
Giannawannabe
…well,…


…just kidding, just kidding… if i had the answer i would be a bazillionaire!

…i wish you luck and Peace:thumbsup:
 
When our son was in out-of-school sports (Y league football), his coach was very clear with the kids – sports were secondary. He talked to the parents about how the kids behaved at home, and asked to see report cards. If either the parent or the report card revealed that football was causing home or school stress – they were suspended from the team until the situation was rectified.

Maybe baseball practice IS taking too much time away from home activities (like homework, and time to prepare for the next day). I know I sound sort of mean, but, I’d whack baseball practice. Those extra hours might give you all a bit more peace at home…
 
(Yes, I know I don’t have kids. http://forum.catholic.com/images/smilies/smile.gif But I am a behavioral therapist, so maybe that counts for a teeny-tiny something. http://forum.catholic.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)

First, sometimes kids “shut off” their listening ability when the same old mantra is thrown at them day after day, about activities they don’t want to do. They go into sort of a “do not compute” mode. They are fully aware that they need to make their bed, brush teeth, get dressed and eat breakfast. But it’s not fun. There is little motivation. They are “only” going to school, after all, and maybe school is not very challenging or it is worrisome for them. (IS there a problem at school, by chance? To make him not want to go? Academic or social struggles, as well as teacher conflict, can be VERY stressful on any little guy.)

Have you considered using a token system with him? Every child has a currency. Each chore in the morning could be worth a “star” sticker, and a certain number of stars could be “cashed in” every evening for a privilege (or several privileges, depending on how you want to do it and what you want to equate as a privilege). He could earn additional stars in the afternoon and early evening for a good school report (if the teacher writes a daily note home, for instance), finishing homework in a timely manner before playing, helping with a family chore and getting along with siblings. I would shake it up and make anything fair game to be “star-worthy” behavior–but the focus needs to be on problematic issues (such as his morning routine).

Stars can be earned, but depending on the child’s needs, they can also be taken away. Maybe he brushes his teeth well, but instead of just forgetting to not make his bed–he refuses to make his bed. However, you don’t want to create a situation where he is constantly failing–most of the time it is best to start out with him only being able to EARN stars.

Some kids cash their stars in for dollars, some for TV watching and computer use, others for a popscicle or some other special treat. I don’t know what interests your son. http://forum.catholic.com/images/smilies/smile.gif It could be that he has to earn five stars before he can play with his Pokeman cards…or whatever. Usually there can be a sliding scale. Eight stars=his biggest reward, six stars=medium reward, four stars=something small, as he needs to remember that unless he completes his chores and doesn’t give mom a hard time, he won’t be getting his rewards for good behavior.

Each day is a new slate, and each day he starts out with zero stars. It’s also good to start the day off with as much positive talking as possible. Wake him up and give him a kiss on the cheek and tell him how much you love him and are so happy he’s your little boy. (He may be surprised to hear such adoration first thing in the morning, but he’ll get used to it. http://forum.catholic.com/images/smilies/wink.gif) Plus, children really do aim to please. He WANTS to make you happy. You can compliment him on how well he listens, how helpful he is, etc. Be sure to heap praise upon him in the afternoons, too, for all the good things you notice–even if it is as simple as–“hey, thanks for remembering to drink your water in the kitchen and not the living room.” The more he feels that he pleases you, the more he will want to please you.

You could also get a timer to help with the star system. Tell him your instruction one time, then twist the timer for a reasonable amount and say, “When the timer goes off, I want you to be finished brushing your teeth,” then leave the room. You may have to wear the timer on you if you feel like he will mess around with it, but sometimes it is helpful for children to have a visual of the time that is elapsing and the structure to complete a task. When the timer goes off–don’t go far enough so he can’t hear it–come in and check. Heap praise upon him for completing the chore–if he doesn’t, ignore it and tell him he hasn’t earned a star. After he’s used to the system, he should only have one chance. (If he doesn’t brush his teeth for one morning, it won’t kill him–and he might get the social consequence of his friends saying–“ew! brush your teeth, man!”)

Another option is to let him reap the rewards of natural consequences. Tell him once, then expect him to do it himself. Leave the room and do not beg. Maybe he has to go to school in his pajamas, or he has to walk into the school office and explain to the principal that he’s late because he didn’t listen to Mom and get up on time. (Obviously a phone call to the principal beforehand might help that one. http://forum.catholic.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
 
cont’d…

If you go with a token system, have a board or special spot to place the stickers so he can visually see them–and dad or older sister can be like, “hey wow, you’re having a great day–four stars already!” You could also make a chart so he can visually see his patternization–and be able to look with pride a month from now and see “gosh, i’ve earned six stars every day for he last ten days!” or whatever.

Just my two cents. http://forum.catholic.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Abby
 
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Giannawannabe:
Hi (and good morning). Every day I wake up with a prayer on my lips and a song in my heart. Then, I wake up the kids for school. I begin losing patience with them, especially my 9-year-old son, almost immediately. They dilly dally around and I have to remind them of everything they need to do (i.e. get dressed, brush teeth, make bed, feed pets). My 11-year-old daughter is not too bad, but my son is leaving me so frustrated. I end up yelling at him and then feeling terrible. When I drop him off at school, I tell him I love him and give him a kiss (in the car, of course where no one can see), but I know that I’ve started him off on a bad note. Right now, I feel like running up to the school and telling him that I’m sorry. The only problem is I don’t think he’s sorry for being smart alecky and disobedient. Any suggestions?

God Bless
Giannawannabe
YES honey–I know what you are going thru totally! I have an 11 yo too! And a 14yo and a 16 yo. MAN it’s hard, no one told us being mothers would be soooo incredibly difficult did they? Not that I remember!

Just know friend “Giannawannabe” that you are doing such a great job at mothering. Just the fact you’re writing in, shows this. Don’t ever doubt for even 1 minute OK? That there are so many fellow moms who totally know how you feel! ME for one!
I know at least for me, that I just have to pray, and read the Magnificat devotional daily. That we moms just must plug away, do the best we can to be there for our little ones, and dear friend, they are just that… aren’t they? Littleones whom God has entrusted to US for their care and upbringing. That’s a most important job-----IMO more than any other, any other career a woman could have. Why there’s so many, even on this forum, who run off daily to a job, when we know the most important job is being a mom, like you are. You are awesome Giannawannebe.!!(sp?) Don’t ever lose sight of this. And I know you’re such a great mom!

I say make a cake today for your kids. When hubby comes home, be wearing a nice outfit, and be sure to smell nice, (just showered), some nice smelling fragrance on, a home-cooked meal on, and then tonite, friend, rent a movie for you. Have you seen “Vanity Fair”? I loved it!

You’re doing a great job!~

Luv,
 
I have a simmilar system to Princess Abby’s suggestions. I have a chart on the fridge for each kid with what they need to do for the day. They get stickers on the chart when the things are completed, but check marks would work just as well. Also, they get extra stars when they get caught doing something good or something extra. My oldest gets an allowance based on his stars. The younger two are still happy with the stickers. I also put a thing in the bathroom with reminders. Wash hands, brush teeth, comb hair, ect, ect. Thie way I don’t ahve to stand there and yell like a drill sargent. Same with their room. There is a reminder sign Make bed, pick up toys, ect ect. The stickers or whatever can be done like I do for an allowance, or saved up for a favotie activity, extra computer time or a TV show, ect. I hope this helps some.
 
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Shoshana:
When she is on days and he gives me that routine, I get him to bed a half of an hour earlier that day. Yesterday he did it again and now he is going to bed 1 hour earlier than he did the week before. (from 9PM to 8PM). There is marked difference.Shoshana
In my family, what Shoshana wrote is exactly what we do. I explain to them that if they can’t act at 7 am like they are old enough to stay up until 9 pm, then they would have to be treated like their younger siblings and go to bed at 8 pm. It only took a couple of mornings (actually 8 pm bedtimes) for them to realize I was serious about how they treated me when they got up in the morning. Of course, I’m speaking of 2 girls, my boys are still too young, 8 and under. So I also take in consideration if they are in a hormonal state before I make the final judgement call to send them to bed early. In those cases I hand them an advil, a chocolate bar and a good book. The next morning they are grumpy, but so ready to be respectful of me because I respected them at a critical time of the month.

It seems that 9 years old is the time that, boy or girl, they start trying to pave their own road. As long as they have the right shovel (discipline mixed with love) the road they pave will be straight and narrow with few bumps.

Tomorrow when he does his “usual” pray for him (quietly) before urging him to get a move on. You may find that your voice is softer after lifting him to our Lord.

My prayers are with you.
 
Wow!!! Thanks everyone.

Last night, we put my son to bed and hour early for his behavior. He fell asleep within a short time. So, I guess he’s tired, huh?🙂 Thanks Shoshana and KGalvan. KGalvan, I love the chocolate bar, advil thing with your daughters—I’ll keep that in mind for my 11-year-old (soon, I fear).

Abby, for not having kids, you sure have a lot of ideas;) !!! I implemented a little chart–posted on his wall. I’m using a star system. Being an organized guy, he loves it. Number one on the list is saying his morning offering. Just FYI, my son is an excellent all A student who LOVES school. He LOVES his teacher and has tons of friends. He hates being late or not getting his homework done. He’s the type of kid who does his homework without being asked!!! He is, however, getting a tad bit mouthy and disrespectful and in the morning, he’s the worst.

Thanks ann96 for your thoughts on the chart thing too. I kind of thought something like that would work for him, but just couldn’t figure out how to get it started.

kagear—It wasn’t mean to mention quitting baseball!!! All three of my kids are in it and it gets overwhelming sometimes. However, my husband is my son’s coach (and my youngest’s assistant coach). My son loves it, but I’m working on coach to cut down on “extra” practices he has just for my son on no practice days.

Lily and sparkle, thanks for the kind words—I needed it:)

Finally, spaceghost, yeah, I feel like that sometimes:) Hey, do you know where we can find the Lone Ranger? I haven’t seen him since you returned;) .

God Bless
Giannawannabe
 
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Giannawannabe:
Hi (and good morning). Every day I wake up with a prayer on my lips and a song in my heart. Then, I wake up the kids for school. I begin losing patience with them, especially my 9-year-old son, almost immediately. They dilly dally around and I have to remind them of everything they need to do (i
Giannawannabe
this is not a spirituality problem, it is a discipline problem and an organizational problem. ironically, the beginning of the cure is spiritual. carve out jealously a minimum of 15 minutes each in AM and PM for your personal prayer and insist the entire family respect your quiet time and place (no interruptions except in cases of imminent death, projectile vomitting or arterial bleeding). You will probably have to do this by carving into your sleep time until your family is trained. This is in addition to at least 15 min of family prayer - the entire family, whoever is home - AM and PM. the idea is to consecrate your day, all 24 hrs to God, and make sure everybody knows it. That heals the bad attitude toward time, duty, responsibility etc. which is behind your family’s organizational and discipline problems. good luck.
 
Annie–as usual…loved your post!!

For the OP–you are over-managing this situation. I have 2 words for you–“natural consequences.”

After making sure you have done your part to get your son to bed at reasonable hour and have organized your part of the morning routine, inform your son that you will wake him up at an agreed time and after that it is up to him to walk himself through his routine in a timely manner. (I have a daughter the same age–they are more than capable).

Post a simple checklist of everything he needs to do (brush teeth, grab a snack, load his backpack, etc.) Have him check it himself before he goes out the door. If he doesn’t get up, and complete these tasks inform him he will be late. If he is late to school, he will lose privileges. If he forgets to check the list and forgets something–he goes without it–you will not be running it to school after him. Do NOT chase him around reminding or yelling. He may be late or go hungry for a day or two until he realizes you mean business and that his actions or lack thereof have natural consequences which he will either enjoy or suffer. Good luck!
 
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Giannawannabe:
Hi (and good morning). Every day I wake up with a prayer on my lips and a song in my heart.
Mt dear friend,
Just imagine what you would be like if you did not wake up, as you do, in the arms of God with a prayer on your lips and a song in your heart. Things would be far worse.
 
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Fergal:
Mt dear friend,
Just imagine what you would be like if you did not wake up, as you do, in the arms of God with a prayer on your lips and a song in your heart. Things would be far worse.
ohhh, you’re so right Fergal. I just came in from playing catch with my kids and going for a walk in the woods. It’s so beautiful outside and I’m so happy and feel so blessed.
Yesterday, I said a little prayer before waking the children like Annie said. I had the chore charts all ready to go. IT WORKED BEAUTIFULLY!!! Plenty of hugs after they got everything done and I NEVER raised my voice once.

**THANKS SO MUCH EVERYONE:D **

God Bless
Giannawannabe
 
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Giannawannabe:
Hi (and good morning). Every day I wake up with a prayer on my lips and a song in my heart. Then, I wake up the kids for school. I begin losing patience with them, especially my 9-year-old son, almost immediately. They dilly dally around and I have to remind them of everything they need to do (i.e. get dressed, brush teeth, make bed, feed pets). My 11-year-old daughter is not too bad, but my son is leaving me so frustrated. I end up yelling at him and then feeling terrible. When I drop him off at school, I tell him I love him and give him a kiss (in the car, of course where no one can see), but I know that I’ve started him off on a bad note. Right now, I feel like running up to the school and telling him that I’m sorry. The only problem is I don’t think he’s sorry for being smart alecky and disobedient. Any suggestions?

God Bless
Giannawannabe
I have a suggestion…but you may not like it. I was a hideous child…lollygagging, procrastinating…basically driving my mom nuts. I didn’t mean to be so rotten, but I got away with it, and nearly drove my mom nuts in the process. She’s much better now, as am I, and I’ll tell you why. Mom and Dad always chatted, and she was explaining to him what a boob I was being. He kept asking her “Why are you getting all riled up about this? Just fix it.” She said that if he were so very clever…do something to help her out (this was the start of my nightmare, because he said “OK”). The next morning, my Dad came to my room to wake me up…with a spray bottle full of ice cold water (kept in the fridge since the night before). He never said a word…just sprayed me on the head until I woke up (did I mention the yelling and hollering I did? No? Good.) and got out of bed.
The nice thing about this was that there were no arguments after that…no dangerous rises in blood pressure (for her)…just a squirt or two…ok sometimes more…of cold water and off I went.
Not saying it’s the only option…but WOW! Is it motivating! It actually is really great because there is no yelling…on mom’s part and, a la Pavlov’s dog, we kids do eventually learn. I’ve actually used this on my stepson…with wonderful effects. Good luck!
 
tcay584------

LOL:rotfl:

I have not tried ice water, but I have put the puppy on my son’s bed and shut the door—that gets him moving. However, then I discovered he just sat in there and played with the dog.

God Bless
Giannawannabe
 
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Giannawannabe:
Hi (and good morning). Every day I wake up with a prayer on my lips and a song in my heart. Then, I wake up the kids for school. I begin losing patience with them, especially my 9-year-old son, almost immediately. They dilly dally around and I have to remind them of everything they need to do (i.e. get dressed, brush teeth, make bed, feed pets). My 11-year-old daughter is not too bad, but my son is leaving me so frustrated. I end up yelling at him and then feeling terrible. When I drop him off at school, I tell him I love him and give him a kiss (in the car, of course where no one can see), but I know that I’ve started him off on a bad note. Right now, I feel like running up to the school and telling him that I’m sorry. The only problem is I don’t think he’s sorry for being smart alecky and disobedient. Any suggestions?

God Bless
Giannawannabe
Hello, well don’t worry about it too much, we can’t stick to something 24/7, your doing your best and also doing a great service to God by looking after your children, and consquently Gods children.
I have a book here on Saint John Viahenny, and one saying of his that stuck in my mind is, “if the devil can grab the first moment of the day, all the rest will be his as well”.

So I always make sure to say my morning offering, you see if you think about it, saying the morning offering is like permitting God to take care of you and yours through the day.(freewill)

I always try and say my morning offering prayers before I leave my bedroom, and on occassions where I’ve been lax, well strangely enough the day seemed to be full of unsurmountable struggles.

:blessyou:
 
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Lilyofthevalley:
You are a mother, you are a human being, we all have these moments.
I can tell you what day is worse for this family! Sunday mornings!
I agree Lilyofthevalley…

Sunday mornings…whoa! This is what works for me…stomp you foot and scream “GET OUT SATAN…I know what you are up to and it’s not going to work…I am going to Mass, so get over it”

My family thinks I am crazy…but it works! :whacky:
 
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