Most people going to Hell and I don't care anymore

[invisiblewitnes]

Hi,

I recently had a heated discussion with my former confirmation (RCIA) teacher and sponsor. She basically has left the faith, and is living in sin, as far as I can see, and pretty much hates the Church now, and thinks all we do is hate gays, hate women, and judge everyone.

I was driving home from a service today, wondering what I was so upset about. Why am I so frustrated with people insulting and attacking and deriding the Catholic faith. And as I pondered this, the thought came to me “The vast majority of people are going to Hell, and I don’t care anymore.”

This might seem harsh, but I think it was something that I needed to think about. The truth is, a majority of people are going to reject Christ. This may not be doctrine but it needs to be considered, and accepted as a real possibility. I feel like a heavy weight was lifted off my shoulders. I felt like some kind of co-dependent Christian, feeling it is my responsibility to convert people and lead people to Christ. Truth is, I am not the Holy Spirit and I cannot do His job of converting souls.

But this where I am at now spiritually. I am taking a new approach to evangelization. I am not going to get angry when people argue with or disparage the faith. I think because of my deep conviction that it is true, I have only two choices for my faith. Knowing the Catholic Church is the one true Church, I can either be a Catholic and accept and live by the teachings of the Church, or I can apostatize and be an anti-Christ, knowing full well that I am consciously rejecting God and His salvation. And the problem is I expect others to have this level of knowledge of the faith and its absolute truths.

Please pray that I have the right attitude towards evangelization.

God bless you.

 

[TEPO]

Let the dead bury the dead.

 

[JerryZ]

By living as true Catholics we can evangelize, perhaps more that with words.
Who knows what God’s providence has in store.

Don’t let it get to you, continue your quest for truth and depening of your knowledge of the faith so that you may depen your love of Christ and His bride the Church.

Oh almost forgot, do pray for your friend, this we are called for always…

Peace!!!

 

[Contra_Mundum_1]

I have only two choices for my faith. Knowing the Catholic Church is the one true Church, I can either be a Catholic and accept and live by the teachings of the Church, or I can apostatize and be an anti-Christ, knowing full well that I am consciously rejecting God and His salvation. And the problem is I expect others to have this level of knowledge of the faith and its absolute truths.
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The problem is that most people are quite far from this realisation. Many think that having a little bit of faith and giving God the very minimum is the perfect amount and that it will get them to Heaven. Others think that even if our faith is true that it simply doesn’t matter if they practice it.

I also get upset. It is hard to not take it personally. But people more spiritually mature than myself have told me that it is my ego that is hurt. These non-believers can’t hurt God. It is important to have that in mind.

 

[Beryllos]

Perhaps you are trying too hard and it doesn’t seem to be working, but do not respond by turning inward and concerning yourself only with your own salvation. Our faith must be shared. Jesus calls us to love one another and to let our light shine in the darkness (Matthew 5:14-16).

Paul wrote (1 Corinthians 12) about the church as the Body of Christ with many different kinds of members. Not everyone is going to be just like you, or be just the way you think they should be. Read on to 1 Corinthians 13 which says “Love is patient; love is kind… It is not irritable or resentful… It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.”

In the Lord’s Prayer we pray “Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.” That seems like such a distant hope, but trust in God’s providence, be patient, and continue to hope and pray and work for the good of your fellow man, your community, our society, and all the world. For all you know, you might save many souls.

God bless you.

 

[JLDMP]

When tempted to argue, recall these wise words: “My job is to inform not to convince.” - St. Bernadette Soubirous

 

[suko]

But people more spiritually mature than myself have told me that it is my ego that is hurt.

Yes, from my understanding, it is our pride that takes a hit. Sometimes a really big hit, too, that makes us really upset.

Also OP, one thing that I like to take to heart is the attitude I feel is behind a quote of St. Bernadette Soubirous where she said, in response to those who doubted her story, “my job is to inform, not to convince.” Obviously, her ego wasn’t hurt, but I think that when we do inform/share our faith, we should do it respectfully and with great charity towards the other person.

By living as true Catholics we can evangelize, perhaps more than with words.

 

[suko]

And as I pondered this, the thought came to me “The vast majority of people are going to Hell, and I don’t care anymore.”

You should care, but at the same time, u shouldn’t allow it to make u lose your peace over it.

But people more spiritually mature than myself have told me that it is my ego that is hurt.

Yes, from my understanding, it is our pride that takes a hit. Sometimes a really big hit, too, which can get us really upset.

When tempted to argue, recall these wise words: “My job is to inform not to convince.” - St. Bernadette Soubirous

I concur! It is the attitude behind those words that’s important to understand. But to add to it, though, I think that when we do inform/share our faith, we should do it respectfully and with great charity towards the other person, and then leave the rest up to God.

By living as true Catholics we can evangelize, perhaps more than with words.

 

[bingbell484]

Two thoughts: if god created the human being, gave him the choice of heaven or hell and most go to hell, doesn’t it mean that god failed in creating humanity? Or did he create humans so that they would endure endless suffering? Seems cruel.
Second, your former teacher is right about one thing. Your statement is judgmental, callous, and shows a lack of compassion.

 

[suko]

And as I pondered this, the thought came to me “The vast majority of people are going to Hell, and I don’t care anymore.”

You should care, but at the same time, u shouldn’t allow it to make u lose your peace over it.

To add to my quote… If anything, knowing that a lot of people are going to Hell (I probably wouldn’t say the “vast majority”, though, as in more than 50%) should make a person more zealous as it did the Fatima children when they saw Hell, and the countless souls falling into it. However, I don’t think we need to do things to the extremes that they did, but it should propel us to at least pray for those who reject Christ and His teachings.

 

[agnes_therese]

Truth is, I am not the Holy Spirit and I cannot do His job of converting souls.

This is true. Also true: it’s not your job to judge who is going to hell.

 

[opusAquinas]

People have lost a sense of sin. Everything is permissible because they are nihilists/atheists or everything is permissible because God is love is interpreted as love is God. In any case, people hate feeling guilty - they just want pleasure - their golden rule is “consenting adults” this rule permits homosexuality, pornography, marijuana/drugs, polygamy and incest etc. These people are vessels of God’s judgement. :sad_bye:

 

[Pablopedro]

Hi,

I recently had a heated discussion with my former confirmation (RCIA) teacher and sponsor. She basically has left the faith, and is living in sin, as far as I can see, and pretty much hates the Church now, and thinks all we do is hate gays, hate women, and judge everyone.

I was driving home from a service today, wondering what I was so upset about. Why am I so frustrated with people insulting and attacking and deriding the Catholic faith. And as I pondered this, the thought came to me “The vast majority of people are going to Hell, and I don’t care anymore.”

This might seem harsh, but I think it was something that I needed to think about. The truth is, a majority of people are going to reject Christ. This may not be doctrine but it needs to be considered, and accepted as a real possibility. I feel like a heavy weight was lifted off my shoulders. I felt like some kind of co-dependent Christian, feeling it is my responsibility to convert people and lead people to Christ. Truth is, I am not the Holy Spirit and I cannot do His job of converting souls.

But this where I am at now spiritually. I am taking a new approach to evangelization. I am not going to get angry when people argue with or disparage the faith. I think because of my deep conviction that it is true, I have only two choices for my faith. Knowing the Catholic Church is the one true Church, I can either be a Catholic and accept and live by the teachings of the Church, or I can apostatize and be an anti-Christ, knowing full well that I am consciously rejecting God and His salvation. And the problem is I expect others to have this level of knowledge of the faith and its absolute truths.

Please pray that I have the right attitude towards evangelization.

God bless you.

The Narrow Gate.
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• “Enter through the narrow gate;* for the gate is wide and the road broad that leads to destruction, and those who enter through it are many.j
  14
  How narrow the gate and constricted the road that leads to life. And those who find it are few.

-Matthew 7

I think Christ understands your frustration far far more then you know. Imagine what it is like to Him? Talk about unappreciation.

 

[Viki63]

Nevertheless, God continues to work in each life for that person’s salvation. We often do not see it happening.
We may be able to speak a word that might be a seed of faith for someone.
It is not the will of God that anyone should die, but that all should turn from their wickedness and come to the knowledge of the truth.

 

[littlestsouls2]

Jesus to St. Gertrude: ‘When a father desires to punish his child, the rod can make no resistance to his hand. It is therefore My will that My elect shall never lay the blame on men for their trials, but that they shall rather consider My fatherly affection, which would never suffer the slightest breath of wind contrary to them if I had not in view the eternal salvation which they should receive in reward. Considering this, they should rather have compassion on those who, while contributing to their virtue, incur guilt for their own selves.’

 

[snowflakeinlove]

Hi,
“The vast majority of people are going to Hell, and I don’t care anymore.”

This might seem harsh, but I think it was something that I needed to think about. The truth is, a majority of people are going to reject Christ. This may not be doctrine but it needs to be considered, and accepted as a real possibility. I feel like a heavy weight was lifted off my shoulders. I felt like some kind of co-dependent Christian, feeling it is my responsibility to convert people and lead people to Christ. Truth is, I am not the Holy Spirit and I cannot do His job of converting souls.

But this where I am at now spiritually. I am taking a new approach to evangelization. I am not going to get angry when people argue with or disparage the faith. I think because of my deep conviction that it is true, I have only two choices for my faith. Knowing the Catholic Church is the one true Church, I can either be a Catholic and accept and live by the teachings of the Church, or I can apostatize and be an anti-Christ, knowing full well that I am consciously rejecting God and His salvation. And the problem is I expect others to have this level of knowledge of the faith and its absolute truths.

We should care about the fact that people are going to hell, because God cares. A lot.
It’s true that it is not our job to convert people, or convince them that we are right and they are wrong, but instead we can be witnesses for our faith and share Christ with those around us through what we do and say. If we just live out our faith and are open about discussing and inviting and sharing with others, I think the Holy Spirit can work through us. I don’t think that means debating with people or having them agree with every single one of the Church’s teachings. Some people are not ready for that, but maybe slowly their hearts may change. I think we have to meet others where they are at. You never know what great things God may do

Please pray that I have the right attitude towards evangelization.

Praying for you!!

 

[fred_conty]

Hi,

I recently had a heated discussion with my former confirmation (RCIA) teacher and sponsor. She basically has left the faith, and is living in sin, as far as I can see, and pretty much hates the Church now, and thinks all we do is hate gays, hate women, and judge everyone.

I was driving home from a service today, wondering what I was so upset about. Why am I so frustrated with people insulting and attacking and deriding the Catholic faith. And as I pondered this, the thought came to me “The vast majority of people are going to Hell, and I don’t care anymore.”

This might seem harsh, but I think it was something that I needed to think about. The truth is, a majority of people are going to reject Christ. This may not be doctrine but it needs to be considered, and accepted as a real possibility. I feel like a heavy weight was lifted off my shoulders. I felt like some kind of co-dependent Christian, feeling it is my responsibility to convert people and lead people to Christ. Truth is, I am not the Holy Spirit and I cannot do His job of converting souls.

But this where I am at now spiritually. I am taking a new approach to evangelization. I am not going to get angry when people argue with or disparage the faith. I think because of my deep conviction that it is true, I have only two choices for my faith. Knowing the Catholic Church is the one true Church, I can either be a Catholic and accept and live by the teachings of the Church, or I can apostatize and be an anti-Christ, knowing full well that I am consciously rejecting God and His salvation. And the problem is I expect others to have this level of knowledge of the faith and its absolute truths.

Please pray that I have the right attitude towards evangelization.

God bless you.

It sounds to me that you are a very caring and sensitive person and I wish we had more like you.

Keep telling the Holy Spirit that you need his help in bringing people back thru your prayers. For when we know it all depends on him and not on us, then that humble prayer will move the Spirit of love to answer your prayers for others.

It is one of the greatest blessings on earth that Jesus asked us to help him in saving others. He sent them out 2 by 2 to announce the good news of heaven and salvation from death. And praying is one way to be sent out to help.

Pleading with the Father on the cross is what Jesus did. Should we be any different? Even our pain of seeing others taking the wrong fork in the road can be a marvelous act offered on our cross for them. If God sees the tears of our pain then he may have pity on them for oursakes. You are needed desperately just as Jesus was needed by us.

May God bless and keep you. May God’s face shine on you. May God be kind to you and give you peace.

 

[irishpatrick]

A suggestion.

Transform your hurt and frustration into action. Find time, every day, to pray for those people in your life. If possible (and try to make this a priority) go to a Catholic Church and say rosaries and prayers for those people in front of the Lord in the Blessed Sacrament inside the Tabernacle, or even during adoration. Make a written prayer list and include all the people in your life, list them by full name, and then when praying in front of the Lord, ask for their conversion, guidance, and salvation–name each person and pray with all your heart. Do that day-after-day, and make a true committed effort to beseech God to touch their hearts with His Grace. Those prayers will likely do far more good, than any conversations you might have. If you cannot go to Church every day, try to get their one extra day each week (other than Sunday) to specifically make these prayers. Try to offer mortifications for everyone on your list–even if it is a simple denial of a piece of candy, offer that up for them. Think of Saint Paul and his persecutions against Christians, his heart was forever changed with one event. Pray for those people, pray for your own soul, and never cease praying even if you do not see immediate results.

Then, as you make this a daily habit, let the Lord’s peace come into your heart and let go of your frustration, pain, and concerns. You might feel surprised with how this prayer life impacts you, and those you pray for.

Try to image what would happen to the world if **every faithful Catholic **followed that simple suggestion.

Good luck and God bless.

 

[Avila123]

Surely we should all care deeply about people who appear to be on the road to hell? Maybe we cannot actively draw them back to Jesus through teaching because that is not our gift or we never meet them, but perhaps the way we quietly live our lives may draw people to Jesus. We can never know whether a person who seems hell-bent, will actually end up there because so long as there is breath in their bodies, there is the hope of reconciliation with God.

When I think of Heaven, it saddens me to think I may not be reunited with someone I love or care about. Then I wonder if God weeps, as He sees His children in ignorance or stubbornness turn away and mourns each for soul that is lost for eternity. We can always pray for sinners to receive their “road to Damascus” experience again and again, living in hope and trusting that God answers those prayer with a yes. We may never know whether our prayers touched a particular life, but at least there will be more souls in Heaven because of prayers. On a final note, I am grateful to all those who prayed and continue to pray for sinners, because God answered a prayer and gently led me Home.