Most traditional seminaries

[Sean]

who said it was?

 

[dochawk]

Correct me if I’m wrong but haven’t the Melkites at times here in the U.S. sent seminarians to Antiochian seminaries?

I know that as early as the 70s, the Melkites were training married men for priesthood, and avoiding the hideous ban by sending them back to Antioch for ordination. Antioch then lent them back permanently to their former dioceses . . .

Today, they have multiple seminarians at the (formerly Ruthenian) Pittsburgh Seminary.

who said it was?

The underlying question was about seminaries in full communion, and the suggested seminary is SSPX.

Could we have just one thread that doesn’t get hijacked into an SSPX status thread???

hawk

 

[gracepoole]

Normally a bishop gives a priest the faculty to hear confessions. In this instance, Pope Francis gave the faculty. Because he is the supreme authority when administering the Code of Canon Law, he has full authority to give this faculty to priests in the SSPX.

 

[phil19034]

St Charles Borromeo Seminary in suburban Philadelphia www.scs.edu

Holy Apostles Seminary in CT. HolyApostles.edu

Sacred Heart Major Seminary - Detroit shms.edu

Sacred Heart Seminary and School of Theology in Wisconsin… http://www.shsst.edu

Saint John Vianney Theological Seminary in Denver. http://sjvdenver.edu

Mount St Mary’s in Maryland https://www.msmary.edu

I’m sure there are others, but these are the ones I can think of off the top of my head

God Bless

 

[babochka]

ziapueblo:

Correct me if I’m wrong but haven’t the Melkites at times here in the U.S. sent seminarians to Antiochian seminaries?

I know that as early as the 70s, the Melkites were training married men for priesthood, and avoiding the hideous ban by sending them back to Antioch for ordination. Antioch then lent them back permanently to their former dioceses . . .

Today, they have multiple seminarians at the (formerly Ruthenian) Pittsburgh Seminary.

In addition, the Melkites frequently ordain men who have been formed outside of the seminary system, in a sort of parish-based internship. They must have a master’s in theology, but the rest of their formation is determined by the bishop and does not necessarily include a formal program outside of that which can be provided by the local parish.

 

[ziapueblo]

I’ve heard this is how priests were traditionally trained, both east and west, and it was not until after the Protestant reformation that the seminary system developed.

ZP

 

[dochawk]

Specifically, seminaries came from the Council of Trent, and spread from RC to Orthodoxy (before the schism got serious)

 

[CilladeRoma]

No, that is not what we must conclude, because that is not what Pope Francis said.

Giving faculties to hear confessions was an “olive branch” extended during the year of Mercy and now beyond, to help bring the SSPX back into the fold. The act itself was an act of mercy for the priests of the SSPX and their followers.

 

[CilladeRoma]

And here is where you are wrong.
The Holy Father can do what ever he wants, when he wants, as he is the “giver of the law”.

The SSPX has not yet been reunited with Rome.
Giving faculties, as I said is an “olive branch”.
The SSPX is still in irregular union. Period.

ETA: From the SSPX website:

However, the celebrant must intend to do what the Church does. The Novus Ordo Missae will no longer in and of itself guarantee that the celebrant has this intention. That will depend on his personal faith (generally unknown to those assisting).

Therefore, these Masses can be of doubtful validity.

One cannot hold this belief and be “in communion” with Rome.