Muslims – Begotten Not Made

[mhmtas]

Adam has been created without a mother and father. So parent of Adam is God?

İf God does not allow none child would born. İs pregnant by only man’s act. Does a man have a real act in fact? A man is only a cause to act of God. So God can create a child without a father but that not mean that Jesus is Son of God. Than all humanbeings are sons of God because in fact they come into being by God’s power.

God is divine and infinite with his all attributes. An infinite object does not divide in pieces. Did God create his Son? İf so than a creator can not be a god. Or did God divide in three parts? İf not, than what is it?

İf God acts and be seen in different forms than is there any mean to say there are three with same divine?

İf one of Three has a part from other divine nature than how did this happen? Or there were three originally?

Candidly ı can not understand.

 

[Reuben_J]

Adam has been created without a mother and father. So parent of Adam is God?

Adam was the first human that God created. He had to be created since there was no human then for procreation.

İf God does not allow none child would born.

True. Everything depends on the will of God. If he does not allow, it will not be done. If he does allow, it will be done accordingly.

Pregnant is by only man’s act.

True. But nothing is impossible with God. So except only for God, anything can happen if he wills it.

Does a man have a real act in fact?

Not so sure about this question. Don’t understand what you’re trying to say.

A man is only a cause to act of God.

Similarly, not sure what you are trying to say.

So God can create a child without a father but that not mean that Jesus is Son of God.

In a matter of creation, like Adam, then God is a Creator and Adam was a creation.

Than all humanbeings are sons of God because in fact they come into being by God’s power.

Not necessary so. We can say they are creations of God but not necessary as sons and daughters of God. Sons and daughters of God is Christian’s concept, whereby if we believe and through Baptism, we are adopted sons and daughters of God (through Jesus, since those who believes will be heir to what Jesus is and Jesus is the Son of God). It can be said, that is an analogy because we cannot really have a very accurate description of what God is. He being God and surpasses everything else.

God is divine and infinite with his all attributes.

True.

An infinite object does not divide in pieces.

True. And neither have we said that he is divided into pieces.

Did God create his Son?

If you mean Jesus, then no. Jesus was not created. He has no beginning and no end.

İf so than a creator cannot be a god.

Only God is a Creator and no one else.

Or did God divide in three parts?

Neither is God divided into three parts. This is Mohammad’s interpretation which mistakenly believes that Christians’ God is made up of three parts. Since this is not Christian belief, and Mohammad made a mistake in this belief, then most likely his revelation is not from God but from the illiteracy of his mind.

İf not, than what is it?

The three persons is a nature of one God which was revealed to man and that is how Christians understand Him.

İf God acts and be seen in different forms than is there any mean to say there are three with same divine?

Yes, because God is almighty he can be in any form he wants to and He is one and divine.

İf one of Three has a part from other divine nature than how did this happen?

It is a nature of God. Just like water, it can be in a form of water, steam or ice, and yet it is still one element. The analogy may not be entirely correct insofar the trinity is but it comes quite close.

Or there were three originally?

No, there is only one God. His nature is that of three persons.

Candidly ı can not understand.

I think it is not that you cannot understand. I do not believe that your intelligence is very low that you cannot comprehend this but perhaps the fact is you refuse to understand like many Muslims before you. Because if you do, then the Quran would be in a shamble for saying that the Triune God in made up of three parts – God the Father, Jesus, and Mary. This is not Christians’ belief and Mohammad is found out that this revelation to him cannot be from God. God is all knowing, he would be able to understand other people’s belief correctly, even if he does not agree with it. So there you are.