Muslims are allowed to deceive non-Muslims about their religion, a concept known as Taqqiya?

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Hey everyone. I watched a video a little bit ago that had three facts about Islam in it. One of the facts mentioned in the video is that Muslims are allowed to deceive non-Muslims about Islam in order to spread and protect Islam. This practice is known as Taqqiya and is supposed to be endorsed by the Qur’an. Does anyone know anything about this?
 
Holly3278 said:
Hey everyone. I watched a video a little bit ago that had three facts about Islam in it. One of the facts mentioned in the video is that Muslims are allowed to deceive non-Muslims about Islam in order to spread and protect Islam. This practice is known as Taqqiya and is supposed to be endorsed by the Qur’an. Does anyone know anything about this?
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The definition here is a bit different:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya
 
At first place it is not for spreading or protecting Islam, secondly it is refering to minority group of Shia Muslims. But even than it is practiced, if life is at risk.
 
Pfaffenhoffen said:
The definition here is a bit different:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya
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Yes, according to the article, the concept focuses on permission (not obligation) to deny one’s faith under duress (pain of death, torture, and so on), and NOT for the purpose of deceiving others to convert or influence them. We should be careful about twisting ideas found in other religions, particularly when we base our conclusions on falsehoods, half-truths, and preconceptions. Let’s remember that “a little learning is a dangerous thing,” and that others have done the same regarding our own religions.
 
Thank you everyone for clearing this up for me. It appears that I was wrong about what taqqiya actually is. That said, I wish to apologize to any Muslims here on CAF who were offended by my thread. 🙂
 
meltzerboy said:
Yes, according to the article, the concept focuses on permission (not obligation) to deny one’s faith under duress (pain of death, torture, and so on), and NOT for the purpose of deceiving others to convert or influence them. We should be careful about twisting ideas found in other religions, particularly when we base our conclusions on falsehoods, half-truths, and preconceptions. Let’s remember that “a little learning is a dangerous thing,” and that others have done the same regarding our own religions.
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True.

As I understand it “taqiyya” is allowing Mohammedans to deny their faith when faced with the penalty of death or great bodily harm.

“Kitman” which is the process of outright disguising the truth by omission is a better term describing the OP’s comments.

For example, a Muslim apologist might say, “There shall be no compulsion in religion” (Sura 2:256) while conveniently leaving out the fact that passage in the Qur’an was abrogated by later, more violent, passages such Sura 8:39 or the infamous the Verse of the Sword (Sura 9:5).

“Fayez”, is this how you understand it? Correct me if I am wrong.

If you are still here, could you explain:
  1. the concept of abrogation as it is found in Sura 2:106 and
  2. also explain what is meant by Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb? Finally,
  3. are Muslims obligated to follow ALL of the Qur’an or only the passages they agree with?
Islam 101
 
It’s a fairly complex subject, but these posts above cover it fairly well, imo.
Pfaffenhoffen said:
The definition here is a bit different:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya
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fayaz said:
At first place it is not for spreading or protecting Islam, secondly it is refering to minority group of Shia Muslims. But even than it is practiced, if life is at risk.
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meltzerboy said:
Yes, according to the article, the concept focuses on permission (not obligation) to deny one’s faith under duress (pain of death, torture, and so on), and NOT for the purpose of deceiving others to convert or influence them. We should be careful about twisting ideas found in other religions, particularly when we base our conclusions on falsehoods, half-truths, and preconceptions. Let’s remember that “a little learning is a dangerous thing,” and that others have done the same regarding our own religions.
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Unfortunately, the following is also true, I believe:
FLGreg said:
True.

As I understand it “taqiyya” is allowing Mohammedans to deny their faith when faced with the penalty of death or great bodily harm.

“Kitman” which is the process of outright disguising the truth by omission is a better term describing the OP’s comments.

For example, a Muslim apologist might say, “There shall be no compulsion in religion” (Sura 2:256) while conveniently leaving out the fact that passage in the Qur’an was abrogated by later, more violent, passages such Sura 8:39 or the infamous the Verse of the Sword (Sura 9:5).
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I have a similar opinion after several internet discussions with muslims on the topic, but must admit, I have never heard of “kitman”

thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/011-taqiyya.htm
wikiislam.net/wiki/Lying_and_Deception_in_Islam

Critics of islam use the word kitman, but I don’t see where the concept or the word is an Islamic invention.
Holly3278 said:
Thank you everyone for clearing this up for me. It appears that I was wrong about what taqqiya actually is. That said, I wish to apologize to any Muslims here on CAF who were offended by my thread. 🙂
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That is a terrific sentiment you express. I wish it was used more often by muslims more often. Neither seems to use it much in forums like this (see whyislam and ummah boards).
 
"YES", call it “Deceiving”, call it “Taqiyya”, call it “lying”, etc…

The above categories are fulfilled in Islam because you can abandon your oath (swearing by GOD’s name to do something then abandon that oath by fasting 3 days or feeding 10 poor people), per Quran (5-89):
“Allah does not call you to account for what is vain in your oaths, but He calls you to account for the making of deliberate oaths; so its expiation is the feeding of ten poor men out of the middling (food) you feed your families with, or their clothing, or the freeing of a neck; but whosoever cannot find (means) then fasting for three days; this is the expiation of your oaths when you swear; and guard your oaths. Thus does Allah make clear to you His communications, that you may be Fateful.”

And because Muhammed permitted lying per Sahih Muslim, Book 32, Number 6303:
“…she heard Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: A liar is not one who tries to bring reconciliation amongst people and speaks good (in order to avert dispute), or he conveys good. Ibn Shihab said he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them).”
 
The new arabic word is “muruna”. A doctrine being used by the muslim brotherhood and other islamists. Muruna is an islamic agenda under the concept of taqqiya.
 
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I like dialogue.
Unfortunately, the only religion you cannot dialogue with is Islam.
Islam only understands the dialogue of the sword!
Am I wrong? Look at history and look and the was Muslims are involved in in present day.
What is the difference?
Muslims preach vengeance, Christ preaches forgiveness.
 
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