Muslims, is the trinity Father, Son and Holy Spirit or Father, Son and Mary?

[dolphinlove]

the translation should be :

O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, ‘Take me and my mother for two gods without Allah?"

وَإِذْ قَالَ اللّهُ يَا عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ أَأَنتَ قُلتَ لِلنَّاسِ اتَّخِذُونِي وَأُمِّيَ إِلَـهَيْنِ مِن دُونِ اللّهِ

the red part is translated to (without)

One commentator said that the reason it’s written “without Allah” من دون instead of “with Allah” مع , is that God does not accept the worship of Him shared with others , thus this worship is in vain , hence the word “without” …meaning , they do not truly worship Him

further, see verse 9:31

                                                                  اتَّخَذُواْ أَحْبَارَهُمْ وَرُهْبَانَهُمْ أَرْبَابًا مِّن دُونِ اللّهِ وَالْمَسِيحَ ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ وَمَا أُمِرُواْ إِلاَّ لِيَعْبُدُواْ إِلَـهًا وَاحِدًا لاَّ إِلَـهَ إِلاَّ هُوَ سُبْحَانَهُ عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ)

They took their rabbis and priests as gods without Allah and also Jesus son of Mary and they were only told to worship one god ,no god except Him, glory to him of what they associate.

this verse used “without” من دون as explained by the commentator above

005.116
YUSUFALI: And behold! Allah will say: “O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah’?” He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
PICKTHAL: And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say it, then Thou knewest it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Knower of Things Hidden?
SHAKIR: And when Allah will say: O Isa son of Marium! did you say to men, Take me and my mother for two gods besides Allah he will say: Glory be to Thee, it did not befit me that I should say what I had no right to (say); if I had said it, Thou wouldst indeed have known it; Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I do not know what is in Thy mind, surely Thou art the great Knower of the unseen things.

Nice try for giving us your own version hadi

 

[elwill]

One commentator said that the reason it’s written “without Allah” من دون instead of “with Allah” مع , is that God does not accept the worship of Him shared with others , thus this worship is in vain , hence the word “without” …meaning , they do not truly worship Him

although i agree with you in your entire view , but i think that there is no harm to translate the word " من دون" into " beside"
in the language , this word “دون” can to mean under or lower or inferior , it differ accoeding to the context

so in these verses the word “من دون الله” can to mean that they
worshipped others who are inferior and lower in thier power with comparison to God .

 

[Hadi]

although i agree with you in your entire view , but i think that there is no harm to translate the word " من دون" into " beside"
in the language , this word “دون” can to mean under or lower or inferior , it differ accoeding to the context

so in these verses the word “من دون الله” can to mean that they
worshipped others who are inferior and lower in thier power with comparison to God .

If I say to you “أريد شاي من دون سكر” it’s translated to “I need tea without sugar” and cannot be “I need tea besides sugar”

 

[Hadi]

005.116
YUSUFALI: And behold! Allah will say: “O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah’?” He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
PICKTHAL: And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say it, then Thou knewest it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Knower of Things Hidden?
SHAKIR: And when Allah will say: O Isa son of Marium! did you say to men, Take me and my mother for two gods besides Allah he will say: Glory be to Thee, it did not befit me that I should say what I had no right to (say); if I had said it, Thou wouldst indeed have known it; Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I do not know what is in Thy mind, surely Thou art the great Knower of the unseen things.

Nice try for giving us your own version hadi

I don’t need translations ,I’m Arabian…
but I’ll accept Yusuf Ali “worship me and my mother as gods in **derogation **of Allah’?”
which the word “derogation” is not a translation of the literal word “من دون” but rather a translation of its implication based on hundreds of instances where the phrase “من دون الله” is found