Muslims state that they believe that the Bible is a book filled with pornography,

[Pax_Vobiscum_57]

** Pax, Please remember that there have been some mishandling in the books of Hadith as there had been heavy corruption in the bibles. Bible is worse than the books of Hadith.

It is better not to base anything serious on the books of Hadith. If there is anything, anything against any prophet of God in the Quran then please bring it. Otherwise do not malign any one on the basis of Hadith only.

Muslim Woman is right in advising you in post #4 about what is now going on in the christin families.**

But your prophet HIMSELF was betrothed to Aisha when she was six years old. Good for him, for having the good judgment not to consummate the marriage until she was 9.

If it was good enough for Muhammad, it should be good enough for ALL Muslims. He led by example, and a rather poor one at that.

Aisha HERSELF narrated 2210 hadiths out of which 316 hadiths are mentioned in both Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim.

 

[Sister_Amy]

, And quoted Gen 19:32 where Lot made his two daughters pregnant. My Question is: Do you feel that the Bible should be removed from every library in Canada? And are you comfortable with the fact that your prophet Muhammad married a six year old child, when he was 55 years old? Do you think this is a good story to tell children?

Where do Muslims state that they believe that the Bible is a book filled with pornography?

I’m a Muslim and I certainly don’t believe that.

 

[planten]

But your prophet HIMSELF was betrothed to Aisha when she was six years old. Good for him, for having the good judgment not to consummate the marriage until she was 9.

If it was good enough for Muhammad, it should be good enough for ALL Muslims. He led by example, and a rather poor one at that.

Aisha HERSELF narrated 2210 hadiths out of which 316 hadiths are mentioned in both Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim.

** Pax, again you are doing the same thing. You have maligned our prophet on the basis of some false report which some one has entered into a book of Hadith. I told you not to do that. Come by the Quran please. Our real book is Quran. Hadith is useful but man made book like your bible.

Hadith is subject to scrutiny. So drop that path and bring something else please.**

 

[Pax_Vobiscum_57]

** Pax, again you are doing the same thing. You have maligned our prophet on the basis of some false report which some one has entered into a book of Hadith. I told you not to do that. Come by the Quran please. Our real book is Quran. Hadith is useful but man made book like your bible.

Hadith is subject to scrutiny. So drop that path and bring something else please.**

So are you denying that Muhammad was married to a child? His favorite wife?

 

[planten]

So are you denying that Muhammad was married to a child? His favorite wife?

** Why should I believe that Muhammad was married to a child?

He was however married to his beloved wife Aisha and she was the only virgin wife. All the rest of his wives were either divorced ladies or widows. The first wife (Khadijah) was a widow 15 years senior to him…

I hoped there was no need to ask such a question. May I ask you on what base are you asking me this question Please? You will come to know that you have no base except as I have expalined in my two previous posts.

But if you too much interested in the matters of marriage & If you ask me samething again then I may ask you a few questions about the marriages of Jesus.

.**

 

[Pax_Vobiscum_57]

** Why should I believe that Muhammad was married to a child?

He was however married to his beloved wife Aisha and she was the only virgin wife. All the rest of his wives were either divorced ladies or widows. The first wife (Khadijah) was a widow 15 years senior to him…

I hoped there was no need to ask such a question. May I ask you on what base are you asking me this question Please? You will come to know that you have no base except as I have expalined in my two previous posts.

But if you too much interested in the matters of marriage & If you ask me samething again then I may ask you a few questions about the marriages of Jesus.

.**

Jesus was never married. Nothing in Sacred Scripture even hints at it. The only mention of a married apostle is of Peter’s mother-in-law, and scholars are still debating whether Peter was married or if the terminology is wrong.

Of his 111 wives, Aisha was the only virgin? She was a CHILD. And what Muhammad claimed to have revealed to him by Gabriel was in all likelihood revealed by Khadijah, who was a Christian woman, but by all accounts not a Christian scholar. Business owner? Yes.

Muhammad was either possessed by a demon or he was crazed. I’ll let you decide which image you prefer.

Muslim children are “given in marriage” as a matter of routine in Afghanistan and some Middle Eastern countries. And it’s usually to a much older man, who has wives already that cannot satisfy him.

This is not love. This is perversion. Depravity. Abomination.

 

[Cluny]

Christians Lord’s earthy dad because he had a teenage wife

But Joseph kept Mary virgin.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

But Joseph kept Mary virgin.

even many Christians believe Mary (pbuh) had other children.

 

[UtSuShImI]

So the part with Rebecah and Leah having many children? Ok! At the beginning… THERE was no LAW YET! All of these things about having many children with many people is in Genesis… Laws were given in Exodus in Moses and the Isrealites escape… Bible is not a book w/ pornography… Do Muslims even love? THey say that you cannot see the word love in the Qu’ran

 

[fishisgood]

What a joke… give me a break on the self rightous muslim… we are so upstanding in our societies compaired to the west… I patrolled the streets of Iraq and have been to Kuwait… the hypocracy; they have pedafiles, rapists, homosexuals like every other society… on top of that they murder in Gods name not only infidels but themselves… all arguments that our society is worse than their own are false and filled with lies. THEY HAVE CRIME AND JERRY SPRINGER TRASH like the west…

 

[chrisse]

I think the entirety of this argument can be boiled down to one word:

Faith.

Many holy books over the centuries have been written, rewritten, translated and lost. Each religion follows what they believe to be the word, and in the end what actions they take in this world are between them and God.

Ethics vary from country to country. What we in the United States find acceptable may not be so in say the UAE. Does that mean either side is evil? Not really. It means that we have a difference in how we view the world. The more difficult situation of this issue is what we teach our children and how we interact with one another.

So you’d be okay if the Hindu’s started burning widows on their husband’s pyres again?

You’d be okay if a group of cannibals moved in next door? Let alone, were being $$$$ in aid from the West to continue?

Just how far does your moral relativism sink to?

 

[chrisse]

The last who should talk are muslims. I have shown previously that sexual abuse of babies is okay in Islam if she is a “wife”. But wait … it’s okay, there’s to be no penetration until she is 9.

 

[sdtouchton]

The three main categories of sin are: the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life (1 John 2:16). Pornography definitely causes us to lust after flesh, and it is undeniably a lust of they eyes. Pornography definitely does not qualify as one of the things we are to think about according to Philippians 4:8. Pornography is addictive (1 Corinthians 6:12; 2 Peter 2:19), destructive (Proverbs 6:25-28; Ezekiel 20:30; Ephesians 4:19), and leads to ever-increasing wickedness (Romans 6:19). Lusting after other people in our minds, which is the essence of pornography, is offensive to God (Matthew 5:28). When habitual devotion to pornography characterizes a person’s life, that demonstrates the person is not saved (1 Corinthians 6:9).

 

[chrisse]

Dear brother, we the Christian don’t know which hadiths you consider ere acceptable, and which are not. Please show us, so the next time I talk about Hadiths, I won’t quote them. OK?

The trouble is the so-called “weak” hadiths are still valid.

Let’s look at this logically (yes I know, ). If these “weak” hadiths were not valid, then they would have been destroyed, or at least a declaration of heresy made about them. Many were included in even the most authoriative of Islamic scholars.

It appears then that the more disgusting of the hadiths and behaviour of the prophet did not come as any surprise to the authoriative scholars. I would go further, the only reason there is denial now, is because they are judged by Western standards : a standard practising muslims do not acknowledge as valid.

 

[chrisse]

Why not ? Thousands & thousands school girls are enjoying close relationships with unlimited partners , becoming illegal mothers . Is not it better for them to get married specially those who reached their puberty instead of visiting the abortion clinics or go for DNA test to find out who is the daddy ?

Muslims reject those nasty allegations against the Prophets Bible has in various stories. No Prophet committed any such major sin.

God blessed Prophets with holy books & it was the duty of human being to preserve but they failed. So , when God sent His final book , He took the responsiblity to keep it from corruption. God made Quran easy to memorise . So , millions have it in memory. There is no way one can change a single word / add anything in it.

Muslim Woman, do you really want me to link to that wonderful Islamic cultural dance your beauties do ??? I mean, they are good muslimahs - they wear their scarves.

PS: the children watching these muslimahs in “certain positions” is a bit much don’t you think?

PPS: and what about little girls (toddlers) on … the floor while their muslim parents encourage them and ensure they are in centre stage?

Straight from the centre of Islam!

 

[planten]

Muslim Woman, do you really want me to link to that wonderful Islamic cultural dance your beauties do ??? I mean, they are good muslimahs - they wear their scarves.

PS: the children watching these muslimahs in “certain positions” is a bit much don’t you think?

PPS: and what about little girls (toddlers) on … the floor while their muslim parents encourage them and ensure they are in centre stage?

Straight from the centre of Islam!

**chrisse, that is all due to your suurender to bad way of life. Do you know, if you start something bad, you will be punished by God. Jesus blood will not save you. I am naming you as an example only.

Moreover, any one who will follow your bad practices will also be punished in hell. But a part of his/her sin will be added to your sins because you had started the bad practice, in my opinion.

Now, is there any doubt that you Catholics are the leaders in all bad ways of life all over the world. Naturally, the Muslims and Hindus and atheists may copy / follow you due to your being super powers. That is natural. So all sin of the world at this time is being added to your account, in my opinion.

Muslim Woman was right in complaining to you. But you instead of being thankful, have tried to pass it off and ridicule Muslim Woman, in my opinion. Try to understand please.**

 

[chrisse]

**chrisse, that is all due to your suurender to bad way of life. Do you know, if you start something bad, you will be punished by God. Jesus blood will not save you. I am naming you as an example only.

Moreover, any one who will follow your bad practices will also be punished in hell. But a part of his/her sin will be added to your sins because you had started the bad practice, in my opinion.

Now, is there any doubt that you Catholics are the leaders in all bad ways of life all over the world. Naturally, the Muslims and Hindus and atheists may copy / follow you due to your being super powers. That is natural. So all sin of the world at this time is being added to your account, in my opinion.

Muslim Woman was right in complaining to you. But you instead of being thankful, have tried to pass it off and ridicule Muslim Woman, in my opinion. Try to understand please.**

Planten, oops wrong person there. It’s muslims who have surrendered to a bad way of life : Islam.

I understand that the Truth is hurtful to you, and your fellow muslims both on this forum and elsewhere, where Islam is being exposed to fair criticism and evaluation : it fails on all levels of YHWH’s Truth to us.

And Planten, I have no fear of Satan’s curses, so you’re wasting your time with them on me. You can continue of course, but I have nothing but contempt for your allah’s judgement.

As for Muslim Woman, she has proved herself a liar and hypocrit. Twice it was pointed out to her that honour killing is explicitly in the qur’an and there is no punishment for a parent, or grandparent, killing their child under Islamic law. Substantiated of course with valid, authentic sources. And yet she continued with her lie that there is no honour killing in Islam by stating it yet again. As I said, Truth hurts.

 

[javed]

, And quoted Gen 19:32 where Lot made his two daughters pregnant. My Question is: Do you feel that the Bible should be removed from every library in Canada? And are you comfortable with the fact that your prophet Muhammad married a six year old child, when he was 55 years old? Do you think this is a good story to tell children?

who told you this???
its all lie?

 

[imasinner]

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** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Why not ? Thousands & thousands school girls are enjoying close relationships with unlimited partners , becoming illegal mothers . Is not it better for them to get married specially those who reached their puberty instead of visiting the abortion clinics or go for DNA test to find out who is the daddy ?

Muslims reject those nasty allegations against the Prophets Bible has in various stories. No Prophet committed any such major sin.

God blessed Prophets with holy books & it was the duty of human being to preserve but they failed. So , when God sent His final book , He took the responsiblity to keep it from corruption. God made Quran easy to memorise . So , millions have it in memory. There is no way one can change a single word / add anything in it.

Mohammad not God made it morally acceptable for Muslims to marry children (recalling his 6year old bride) Saying prophets are sinless goes against the truth. When Mohammad commited adultery (even though he had a dozen wives!!) he was just as guilty of it when David of the OT committed the same sin. Yet Muslims will have us believe these were simple “mistakes”. That is the beauty of being able to write your own Book.

 

[imasinner]

In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

even many Christians believe Mary (pbuh) had other children.

Many Christians do but theyre the Protestant type not the original Christians. Youve been here a while now and should know that we Catholics believe otherwise. The Immaculate Conception remained a virgin throughout her marriage. From what I understand of Islam and the over importance of sex within a marriage this is indeed difficult for you to understand.