Must we agree with EVERYTHING in the catechism?

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To be Catholic,do you have to agree with absolutely everything in the Caechism and church doctrine?I strongly agree with about 90% of it,but some things I just cannot accept.Do I still have tofollow it,or is it ok to make up my own mind?Thanks
 
To be Catholic,do you have to agree with absolutely everything in the Caechism and church doctrine?I strongly agree with about 90% of it,but some things I just cannot accept.Do I still have tofollow it,or is it ok to make up my own mind?Thanks
To be a Catholic , yes you must accept all of the Church doctrines. You can discuss this with your confirmation instructor or parish priest about those things that you have trouble accepting—but I just want to let you know: you don’t have to understand something fully to accept it—mysteries, such as the Trinity, are so complex. Understanding is a human need to have explanations for everything and to understand everything logically—faith is not about logic.

I am so glad you are interested in your faith—more kids ought to be just like you.
 
To be Catholic,do you have to agree with absolutely everything in the Catechism and church doctrine?I strongly agree with about 90% of it,but some things I just cannot accept.Do I still have tofollow it,or is it ok to make up my own mind?Thanks
I think it depends on what you disagree with. On the doctrinal and moral matters you must. On certain disciplinary matters mentioned, you may have your own opinion which however, is submitted to the prudence of the Church. For an example, which you might have heard before, when 1579-80 speaks of celibacy of the clergy- you might feel that it would be better if they were married - but you accept the discipline of the Chruch as it’s now in force.

You might want to discuss this, though, with someone well versed in the doctrine, so that you don’t mistake a doctrine for a discipline.
 
From a human perspective, if you agree with someone on 90% of issues, you have a pretty strong trust. You might do well to trust on the 10% on which you do not agree.

From a supernatural perspective, Jesus promised that the Holy Spirit would protect the Church from error. That’s another great reason to trust what the Church teaches.

The Catechism is a big book with a lot of deep things in it. It takes a long time to study it well and come to an understanding. When you have done that, I’ll bet you end up agreeing with Teeliumtrozzle about how much sense it really makes.

It is a good exercise in humility to say, “I don’t fully understand that teaching,” rather than, “I disagree with that teaching.”

Betsy
 
To be a Catholic , yes you must accept all of the Church doctrines. You can discuss this with your confirmation instructor or parish priest about those things that you have trouble accepting—but I just want to let you know: you don’t have to understand something fully to accept it—mysteries, such as the Trinity, are so complex. Understanding is a human need to have explanations for everything and to understand everything logically—faith is not about logic.

I am so glad you are interested in your faith—more kids ought to be just like you.
Understanding is human and our celebrant says that life is full of uncertainty and that we base our sinful lives on “if’s” and that the bible and Catechism is full of absolutes. That a holy life is easier followed if we stick to our absolutes of faith. Wouldn’t that mean that logical as well?
 
The SSPX disagrees with some of the more modernist passages in the Catechism, but they’re still Catholic. However, where the catechism coincides with Catholic doctrine, you must accept it.
 
Understanding is human and our celebrant says that life is full of uncertainty and that we base our sinful lives on “if’s” and that the bible and Catechism is full of absolutes. That a holy life is easier followed if we stick to our absolutes of faith. Wouldn’t that mean that logical as well?
I am talking about understanding mysteries, not absolutes—but yes I agree with what you say. We won’t ever grasp the mysteries of our faith—we just submit in faith, i.e., accept them.
I was trying to help her.
 
I am talking about understanding mysteries, not absolutes—but yes I agree with what you say. We won’t ever grasp the mysteries of our faith—we just submit in faith, i.e., accept them.
I was trying to help her.
😃 I’m asking too… still learning and trying to figure all of this out and I wade thru our RCIA classes. 😛
 
😃 I’m asking too… still learning and trying to figure all of this out and I wade thru our RCIA classes. 😛
Oh:) Good luck with your RCIA. Hope all goes well in your learning process. Don’t stress—we are all still learning
 
I don’t think it is ever wrong to use the intellect to understand the faith; this is always good.

By reason we can know that the Catholic Church is the Church of Christ Jesus, we can see this evidenced in Apostolic Succession from the first Apostles in an unbroken line of Pope’s and Bishops. This isn’t something we muse upon and try to understand, this is something that is clearly evident and traceable.

Nothing has changed in that line, what was held fast then, is held fast now. It wasn’t always documented, it wasn’t always held as solemn dogma or doctrine, but it was always held fast.

For example: contraception has always been held fast in unbroken succession from Judaism. The seed was not to be spent outside of the womb, this has followed into the modern era we now live in and has been developed in doctrine to deal with the ever increasing and complex ideaologies of our times that are contrary to the sacredness of human life and the sacredness of the sexual act between man and wife and the sacredness of the human body.

No we don’t have to wash before we go up to the ‘Temple’, the Church, but we know washing to be a good rule of thumb to stay clean and freer from disease and have clean mouths and hands to receive our Lord in Holy Communion. We also know the symbolism of washing to keep our souls clean by the Sacrament of Reconciliaton where we confess. Jesus did not take away the old law, but developed it yet further into the new covenant. God has always dealt with us in baby steps even from the very beginning.

What is expected of us is obedience. We are not expected to have a totally blind faith, though by the nature of faith we do not go by sight, but by grace. So we are obedient by God’s grace to the Church but we strive to ‘know’ so that we may better love and serve God, therefore we are to seek to form our conscience.

Now it is true I cannot be anyone else’s conscience and no-one can be my conscience, if we attempt to do this we are no better than the poor Pharisees who set up hard burdens no man can carry, but with God’s grace men can carry hard burdens and they do this by following their conscience.

If a man is to act contrary to his conscience then he damns himself, it states so in the Catechism. However a man is to subject his conscience to the Church and to seek to form it within Her precepts, dogma and doctrine.

We are not to be legalistic Pharisees to each other. We are to simply state the Truth, by action and sometimes words and in doing so call each other’s conscience to develop and form, but we do this kindly and mercifully to each other recognising Jesus within each other and knowing we all are sinners and not perfect and knowing we do not know each other’s souls nor circumstances, however we are on the upward calling from God to Heaven.

Can a man condemn a starving poor man for stealing a loaf of bread so that he might live and feed his children who are starving? I don’t think so, I’d ask why none of you gave that man a loaf of bread!!!

It is the Holy Spirit, sorely underestimated and sorely neglected by Christians that convicts men’s conscience and whilst we might strive to convert each other inside and outside of faith we must realise that this work to convict the souls and consciences of men is the work of the Holy Spirit, who protects the Truth and guides the Church, since the Pentecost when the first Father’s the Apostles recieved Him, and within the Church the Truth is upheld and preached to ends the ends of the earth infallibly because the Holy Spirit is not flawed as He is God and does not make mistakes or errors.

Who among us walked into the Church or was born into the faith perfect? None of us. We are all in formation, formation of conscience and formation of soul. Then who among us can be harsh to each other?

Rather pray for each other that each man, woman and child according to their station in life may draw close to Christ Jesus and their measure may be increase, that we may not judge each other, but be merciful and pray always for each other and live according to our measure.

In the Living Prayer of my life
 
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