My in-laws are driving me crazy!

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I just need to vent here. My FIL just came over to my house and stood there for a half hour insulting me. He cut me down on everything, pointing out all my faults. Here’s the story: my husband and I were going to do some remodeling on our house, and my husband asked for his help. He came over and announced that he won’t help us because he thinks the remodeling would be a mistake. I was OK with that, it’s his opinion, and if he doesn’t want to help us he doesn’t have to. Well, somehow he took this opportunity to point out other things he doesn’t approve of in our lives, and insulted just about everything in my life. This is not the first time he has done this. He is one of these people who thinks he is right about everything, including religion (he’s Baptist). He does not hesitate to boss people around and tell them what’s wrong about them. In the past I have forgiven him for being rude, but I can’t stand this anymore. I know it’s the Christian thing to turn the other cheek, but after today I don’t want anything more to do with him. What should I do?? I’m tired of being insulted and pushed around!!
 
I’m sorry, My MIL is the same way. Very opinionated. She actually says things like “Its okay to dust every once in a while” or flat out telling me I am raising her grandkids wrong. You should not be a doormat. True, you should turn the other cheek, but you have and you have to keep a relationship with this guy, He should know his boundaries. Remind him of scripture passages that teach us how to care for each other (Treat others as you want to be treated) and let him know that his negativity is unhelpful to building/sustaining your relationship with each other.
Do you have any of his grandkids ? If you do, I might take a different approach. Let him know that exposing the children to that kind of yelling and disrespect are a kind of child abuse and it is undermining your place of authority and teaching them not to respect thier mother and father. If he doesn’t stop he cant spend time with the grandkids. That should turn him around quick.
Don’t yell, say nothing to agitate him more. Be calm and collect. I would suggest writing things out for yourself so you have a clear mind. You may even want to conference call him with your husband and let him know if he starts yelling at you -you will hang up. These are things I would do with my MIL, and I have also done these with my Dad. He started using the “N” word constantly when I was pregnant with the first grandchild. I kept asking him to stop, and when he wouldn’t I announced at the family dinner table that if I ever heard him use that word again that he would never see his grandchild–and I meant it! He has never siad it or anything else racist in front of me again. She is 8 now.
 
Your FIL came into YOUR house and insulted you? Absolutely and totally no respect…you just don’t do that to people. I know that you want to turn the other cheek…but here’s my way of thinking…I can turn the other cheek if I am visiting my MIL in HER HOME, but when she comes to my home…Don’t disrepect me! That’s just the way we do things in the South. Last time my MIL was at my home, she made the comment to everyone else in the room after I left that she was “Damned if I do, damned if I don’t”…That was the it, if she disrepects me AGAIN, I will politely ask her to leave and tell her that I am not listening or taking any of that. She came to the hospital when I delieved the other week, I was civil to her and she came to see the baby for a couple of hours last week, she was civil and I enlisted my Mother to be present.

What does your hubby say?

You say “in-laws”…is your MIL involved also?

In’laws are very hard to deal with…you are in my prayers.
 
My FIL used to tell his grandchildren they couldn’t cry in his house. They had to go to the crying tree in the garden.

One day he was visiting us and told our three year old she couldn’t cry. The five year old [who was very quiet otherwise, but very protective of her baby sister] lit into him. “This is her house, not your house. She can cry here - she’s supposed to cry here.” 😃

It left him speechless.
 
Your husband needs to stand up to him. FIL is his dad, he needs to take care of this.
 
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Asella:
I just need to vent here. My FIL just came over to my house and stood there for a half hour insulting me. He cut me down on everything, pointing out all my faults. Here’s the story: my husband and I were going to do some remodeling on our house, and my husband asked for his help. He came over and announced that he won’t help us because he thinks the remodeling would be a mistake. I was OK with that, it’s his opinion, and if he doesn’t want to help us he doesn’t have to. Well, somehow he took this opportunity to point out other things he doesn’t approve of in our lives, and insulted just about everything in my life. This is not the first time he has done this. He is one of these people who thinks he is right about everything, including religion (he’s Baptist). He does not hesitate to boss people around and tell them what’s wrong about them. In the past I have forgiven him for being rude, but I can’t stand this anymore. I know it’s the Christian thing to turn the other cheek, but after today I don’t want anything more to do with him. What should I do?? I’m tired of being insulted and pushed around!!
 
Hello Asella, First you must not ever ask for he’s help in anything. If you ask for he’s advice or opinion, 'you are opening a door, You don’t want that. If your husband does not want to tell him anything, turn the other cheek, by that I mean you are ‘ready’ Turning the other cheek does not mean you have to be doorMatt. It means “ok here it is,… now hit me” Do you know what I mean? Don’t ever let your self be sent to the floor. As Catholics we think we got to let everyone step all over us. That is not it. God does not want us to be “DoorMatts” to anyone. We must first take care of our selfs so, we can take care of others. I hope I have sent a messege of courage and a new light on the reading “Turn the other Cheek”

May God Bless
dMaria
 
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aurora77:
Your husband needs to stand up to him. FIL is his dad, he needs to take care of this.
Yes… it is certain that he can remind him that he was not raised to let anybody speak to his wife that way, not in his house and not anywhere else. He might cite Gen. 2:24… God is clear as to where his allegiance belongs.

Incidentally, to “turn the other cheek” is a nonviolent but adamant refusal to be dominated by violence. You don’t just take evil actions like a doormat. You refuse to let the evil work its way. So when you “turn the other cheek”, that means you gracefully refuse to be cowed away from either your own standards of loving behavior *or *anyone’s attempt to crush you into submission by violence against you.

When Jesus was before Pilate, Herod, and the Sanhedrin, he did not fight back in kind against his tormentors and persecutors, but he did speak the unvarnished truth about what they were doing. He did not lie about who he was in order to stop their sin against him. You may find that meditating on the Passion narratives might help you with the way your cross is going. Via con Dios.
 
Thank you all so much for your wonderful advice. To answer some questions you all had, no, there are no children involved here. My husband and I have no children. Also, my MIL is very submissive to her husband. She believes whatever he believes, and if he insults me in front of her she just sits there and doesn’t say anything because she wouldn’t dare stand up to him. I’ve heard him insult her before, and she didn’t do anything. My husband does not stand up for me. He is also submissive towards his father. It’s really weird–the whole family (extended relatives included) never stand up to this guy. He could announce that the sky is orange and they would all nod their heads in agreement like a bunch of sheep. Anyways, I called him after I posted my original thread and in a calm manner I explained that I will not tolerate him coming into my home and insulting me. Since my husband does whatever his father says, I kindly explained that because of his interfering and insults, he has caused a rift between my husband and me, and he totally flew off the handle. He started screaming into the phone that I was un-Christian for not listening to his “truths” about me and how I shouldn’t talk back to him because he cuts me down out of love. I asked him if he spoke to his own daughter this way, and he said yes. Then he told me to talk to a priest and tell him about our conversation because the priest would surely agree that I’m un-Christian. After he said what he wanted to say, he hung up on me. The way he yelled and screamed was horrible. My husband told me stories about when he was a kid and how his dad would totally lose it when he was angry and do crazy things like toss the garbage can across the kitchen (garbage flying everywhere) and walk out of the room in a huff. I have never seen him get angry like that, but when I spoke to him on the phone I got a taste of how terrible he can get, and it left me wondering if maybe the reason his family doesn’t stand up to him is because he gets so violently angry.
 
Two words: Get counseling.

Also, read the book Boundaries, by Cloud and Townsend.

This sort of behavior is soooo outrageous. Your husband needs counseling, too. He is locked into the pattern his father has created for him. His first duty is to you, not his father. He may not know this, yet, however. So help teach him with the guidance of a therapist!

My prayers are with you. My in-laws are insane, as well.
 
Okay, here is a suggestion for you to ponder. Have you ever considered moving away just to give yourself a little distance? Even just an hour away. My husband knew that the only way to create distance from our families (who were always in our business) was to give them all some space, literally. It has helped us to be more dependent on each other and has stregnthened our marriage.

I also agree that reading up and perhaps even getting some council on how to handle difficult people would be helpful. Depending on how much your husband had been effected by your FIL’s abuse, he may need to seek council also. When you do eventually have kids, it may effect the way he parents so you want to nip that one in the bud.
 
I agree about the counseling, but my husband would never agree to it. I would LOVE to move farther away but there lies another problem: my in-laws have generously offered us some land of theirs in the country for us to build a house on. This would place our newly built house next to theirs. At one point we drew up plans to build, but his father insulted me one too many times, so I told my husband there was no way I would live next to them, so we didn’t build. My husband still has his heart set on living there, and blames me because I’m standing in the way of his “dream house.” My FIL has mentioned this “free land” more than once, and I just know that if we built, he would never let us forget that we built on his land. I’ve been looking for houses through realtors, but we’ve been having a hard time finding one that suits us. I just hope and pray that we get a house very far away from them.
 
Even if your husband won’t go, you should. It will give you an outlet and help you better discern how to react to these sorts of situations. Your husband will also see the good it is doing and might be likewise inspired to go.

Is the land yours regardless of whether or not you build on it? Like, the property is deeded to you? If so, and assuming your in-laws don’t mind what you do with it (fat chance, I’m sure): sell it, use it to buy or build a new home, and don’t look back. If they will not hear of it being sold, then that’s fine. But with the situation as you describe it being now, I would not even consider living next to them.

Your husband sounds like he needs a lesson in his vocation. It’s interesting to me when husbands or wives choose to “keep the peace” by letting their parents or siblings walk all over their spouse.

Seriously, go to counseling yourself. Pray that your husband follows.
 
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Asella:
He started screaming into the phone that I was un-Christian for not listening to his “truths” about me and how I shouldn’t talk back to him because he cuts me down out of love. I asked him if he spoke to his own daughter this way, and he said yes. Then he told me to talk to a priest and tell him about our conversation because the priest would surely agree that I’m un-Christian. After he said what he wanted to say, he hung up on me. … I have never seen him get angry like that, but when I spoke to him on the phone I got a taste of how terrible he can get, and it left me wondering if maybe the reason his family doesn’t stand up to him is because he gets so violently angry.
Oh, absolutely it is. You are quite right, your husband’s father taught him nothing like how a Christian man treats his wife. This, in retrospect, I should have surmised from your first post.

[An aside to unmarrieds reading this: Mark well how your fiance’s parents’ marriage works. This is the model your fiance had. Everything else is theoretical.]

This leaves you with the job of picking your battles very carefully and sticking to your guns. By all means, see a priest. If your husband won’t go with you, then go alone. The priest may tell you that calling your FIL was a mistake, but only because it is a mistake to try to teach a pig to sing. (You only frustrate yourself and annoy the pig.) As hopeless as it is for FIL to bring you into line by the method of direct attack, trust me very much that you will have even less luck in the other direction.

Your FIL sounds like he needs to cling to the mythology that he alone is properly dedicated to the pursuit of perfection and that everyone else is a screw-up who exists to make his life miserable. I will wager that he finds the entire world, not just his immediate family, an almost hopeless “fixer upper.” Without his control on things, he imagines that your whole family will wind up in the ditch. If it helps you any, imagine if you will that his guns are even more relentlessly trained on himself than on the rest of you, in an on-going interior criminal trial. His life must be utterly exhausting, the poor foolish man.

This isn’t to say that he isn’t tormenting you, just that only God is likely to ever reform the man by direct revelation. My analogy that cast him as a murderously-jealous member of the Sanhedrin of Jesus’ day is not far off the mark. We all carry our sin; it is my guess that that is his sin to contend with. I hope you can get your husband to move away from him and his toxic hold on his family. Good luck to you, you are going to need it. And for crying out loud, never, ever let your husband talk you into accepting any gift from your in-laws that you are not in a position to reciprocate. You will have no gift from your FIL that does not have strings. Don’t let it be the home that you sleep in.
 
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