Name any scripture passages you don't fully understand

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I guess the ones i don’t understand are those seeming to support what the protestants call once-saved-always-saved. There are FAR more passages that refute osas than seem to (key words) support it… but in any case, it is kind of confusing…

I wish i could think of a passage that SEEMs to support osas… but right now, in my muddled mental state… :hypno::whacky: i can’t…

(Which, now that i think about it, rather tends to prove my point: that such passages are few and far between since even someone who has been to daily Mass for… hmm… about 100 years now… can’t remember them… )

 

[Howie01]

I guess the ones i don’t understand are those seeming to support what the protestants call once-saved-always-saved. There are FAR more passages that refute osas than seem to (key words) support it… but in any case, it is kind of confusing…

I wish i could think of a passage that SEEMs to support osas… but right now, in my muddled mental state… :hypno::whacky: i can’t…

(Which, now that i think about it, rather tends to prove my point: that such passages are few and far between since even someone who has been to daily Mass for… hmm… about 100 years now… can’t remember them… )

If you can’t list them, or remember them, then you can prove no argument against them.

 

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here is one that seems to be osas-friendly… as it were…

Rom 4:13 says: Brothers and Sisters: It was not through the law that the promise was made to Abraham and his descendants that he would inherit the world, but through the righteousness that comes from faith. For this reason, it depends on faith, so that it may be a gift, and the promise may be guaranteed to all his descendants, not to those who only adhere to the law but to those who follow the faith of Abraham, who is the father of all of us…

only problem is: Abraham was prepared to do some pretty hard stuff for God… like travel to an unknown land… sacrifice his beloved son…

so if this is the kind of faith osas-ers are speaking of… i don’t think many of them have this kind of faith… Just my opinion…

 

[zalo]

My biggest problem has always been with all those verses in OT that describe violent acts: killings, mass killings, even genocide. I have asked around for a way to reconcile all that with the loving God, incarnated in Jesus-Christ, of the NT, and have received very diverse and contradictory answers. Any help would be appreciated.

 

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My biggest problem has always been with all those verses in OT that describe violent acts: killings, mass killings, even genocide. I have asked around for a way to reconcile all that with the loving God, incarnated in Jesus-Christ, of the NT, and have received very diverse and contradictory answers. Any help would be appreciated.

i had forgotten aabout that… i had /have a problem with this also… but i feel i understand some things better after having walked w/ the Lord for many years, gone to daily Mass, etc… Idolatry is what caused God to command certain cities to be destroyed… All sin is idolatry if you think about it - it is loving something/someone that is not God, that cannot save (temporary, imperfect, impotent gods)… i feel that God wanted idolatrous cities destroyed completely so they wouldn’t pollute his people with false beliefs, which, of course, lead to sin which leads to Hell…

i don’t think God had the cities destroyed unless/until he could see there was no possibility of repentance… As the scrpture says, God’s spirit will not always strive with man… Once man gets to a point of loving sin and being too attached to it, it is very unlikely the person will repent… so God got rid of them so they wouldn’t pollute others…(?)

I know i could have chosen better words to describe all this… but I’m pressed for time & don’t have time to possibly think of better ones…

there could be other reasons for God allowing or initiating violence… but this is what i think…

 

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actually, when i analyze that scirpture i used (above) as one that seems to be osas-firendly, i see that it is not…

it is only speaking of the promise God gave to Abraham that he would be the father of many nations… I don’t believe it was speaking of salvation…