TimothyH:
If one sees a fig tree in a dream, his learning will be preserved within him, as it says: Whoso keepeth the fig tree shall eat the fruit thereof. ( Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Berakoth, Folio 57a)
halakhah.com/berakoth/berakoth_57.html
Wow, this is great! I think it supports more my point: that Nathanael was dreaming (thinking) in the fig tree before Philip arrived. Many thanks for your contribution. And therefore the reason why he answered like that to Jesus when he told him that he saw him under the fig tree!
TimothyH:
***R. Hiyya b. Abba in the name of R. Johanan expounded: With reference to the Scriptural text: Whoso keepeth the fig tree shall eat the fruit thereof, why were the words of the Torah compared to the ‘fig tree’? As with the fig tree the more one searches it the more figs one finds in it so it is with the words of the Torah; the more one studies them the more relish he finds in them. ***(The Soncino Babylonian Talmud, Eruvin Book III 54a-54b)
halakhah.com/rst/moed/13c%20-%20Eruvin%20-%2053a-79a.pdf
-Tim-
This quote is more to do with the curse of the fig tree that Jesus did. Nothing to be sitting under the fig tree.
Many thanks,
In the love of Christ and all the people that he inspires,
Gloria
.
The History of the Fig in the Holy Land from Ancient Times to the Present Day by Asaph Goor
rbedrosian.com/Gardens/Goor_1965_Fig.pdf
Fig tree as the Knowledge of Good and Evil
jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0007_0_06440.html
From the Talmud and Hebraica by John Lightfoot
ccel.org/ccel/lightfoot/talmud.vii.ii.html
Understanding Matt 21:19, and Mark 11:14 (A Cursed Fig Tree)
jerusalemcouncil.org/tag/teshuvah/
*Understanding Yeshua cursing the fig tree requires one to read about Adam and Eve and the fig leaves they covered themselves with, and to understand how the Jewish idiom of “studying under the fig tree” means to study about the Messiah. *
-Tim-
Dear Timothy, many, many thanks!! I read all the links in your posts (the other one also) and I most be becoming an expert in figs!!!
I like these ones that make my point of Nathanael thinking in the Messianic age:
" It is mentioned in the Bible 16 times together with the vine as the most important of the country’s fruit. The saying “every man under his vine and under his fig tree”
depicts an era of peace and security in the past and the vision of an ideal future" (I Kings 5:5; Micah 4:4; cf. Joel 2:22)
“
A man who sees a fig in a dream will have
his learning preserved. Why is the Torah
likened to a fig’? All the fruits have some-
thing uneatable in them-dates have stones,
grapes have their pips, and pomegranates
their rinds, but the fig is good to eat in its
entirety. So all the words of the Torah
have nothing worthless in them” (Yalkut
Shimoni, Yehoshua, 247).
“The more man searches in
it (the fig tree), the more figs he finds. Thus are the words
of the Torah, the more man studies them,
the more wisdom he finds in them” (Baby-
lonian Talmud, Erubin, 54a).
“They
would study the Torah under the fig tree and
the owner of the tree would get up early and
pick it over every day” (Jerusalem Tal-
mud, Berahot, Chapter 2).
And this last one which does not explain the event, because we know that Nathanael was not setting under a fig tree, if Jesus or Philip will have seen him under the fig tree, he will not have answer as he did: “Rabbi, You are the Son of God, the King of Israel.”
Many, many thanks for all these. And as I said, me interpreting as Messianic times sitting under the fig tree, but in a dream, just makes my point!!!
In the love of all the ones who teach the ignorance of others, (meaning my ignorance)
Gloria
.
