Natural vs. Supernatural

[JHC]

When God interjects the supernatural into the natural, does the natural become infused with the supernatural? Do the two become one?

 

[Robert_Sock]

When God interjects the supernatural into the natural, does the natural become infused with the supernatural? Do the two become one?

I think you’re talking about the body and soul. In Catholicism, the two are said to be one, but in the teachings of Judaism, they remain separated entities.

 

[JHC]

I’m talking more in respect to divine intervention. Thanks.

 

[Richca]

I’m talking more in respect to divine intervention. Thanks.

Well, if your thinking about miracles such as Jesus healing the blind in the gospels, since God is the author and creator of nature and the world, I think Jesus here is fixing and healing nature, that is, whatever causes blindness which probably has to do with some malfunction of our material bodies. God has established certain laws in nature that it follows but these laws are subject to his power and he can suspend the natural order of nature and its laws at will. For example, the parting of the Red Sea when the Israelites passed through it on dry ground with a wall of water on their right and on their left. In this case, nature and creation remains nature and creation but it is obeying God’s almighty power. I would not say that creation and God or his power become one. Creation is not God, it is something distinct from him and created by Him and it is subject to his power. Nor is God subject to the laws he has implanted in nature. Creation is subject to Him and he can suspend the laws of nature at will.

 

[edwest2]

In most cases, aside from martyrdom, miracles happen so that certain people can become Saints. God has sent the Blessed Virgin Mary to give us messages and warnings. And yes, God can suspend the laws of nature at will.

Ed

 

[JHC]

I was trying to ask how the natural remains separate from the natural when so much divine intervention is being interjected into the natural world. It seems like the two would become infused.

Oh well - weird question haha

 

[Charlemagne_III]

I was trying to ask how the natural remains separate from the natural when so much divine intervention is being interjected into the natural world. It seems like the two would become infused.

Oh well - weird question haha

Not so weird.

The Creation itself was a supernatural/natural event by which God infused nature (the not-God) with his power and design. The heavens declare the glory of the Lord, who made us in his image and likeness.

God infused the creation, and he can at will defuse it.

Indeed, according to astronomers the physical universe seems to be dying of entropy.

 

[goout]

I was trying to ask how the natural remains separate from the natural when so much divine intervention is being interjected into the natural world. It seems like the two would become infused.

Oh well - weird question haha

Are you proposing a false dilemma?
I’m not sure, I’m asking.

The Church, for example, is not limited to observable things.

 

[Richca]

I was trying to ask how the natural remains separate from the natural when so much divine intervention is being interjected into the natural world. It seems like the two would become infused.

Oh well - weird question haha

The idea that creation is somehow independent of God and that God is intervening everywhere in creation is actually false. The world absolutely depends on God not only when it first came to be but at every moment of its existence. What is taking place in the world now through second causes (creation) is dependent on God, the first cause as the CCC#308 says “God is the first cause who operates in and through secondary causes.” Accordingly, what ever comes about through the second causes of nature (the created world), does not take place without God, the first cause. God is the first cause of whatever takes place in creation. God does not need to intervene in the workings of nature, He is the very cause (the first cause) of these workings. This is what is meant by Divine Providence.