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My daughter is presently going to a mostly male college. I believe approximately 85-90% male. The issue at the moment is in choosing her major. The school is focused and therefore doesn’t offer a wide diversity of majors. There are a relative few majors of which two predominate.

The two are engineering majors and a marine transportation major. Although she poses strong math skills she is adament about not pursuing Engineering. Being an Engineer myself I can relate to the issues she has with the profession (Engineering is a wonderful profession but not for everybody). This leave the choice of either the marine transprotation, or one of the relatively lesser known lesser specialized and lesser proven majors the school offers.

Where I hope people on this forum may be able to help me is in the just how we feel as Catholics to a woman pursuing a profession that has much potential for offering jobs that would require the woman to be away from home for many weeks possibly months at a time.

Often, on my way to work in the morning I listen to Christian radio. Of course if the oppurtunity were available I’d listen to Catholic broadcast instead. The other day I was listening to John McCarther (excuse spelling please). He was basically preaching on how the woman’s primary role was in the home. He was very strong in his opinion on to the degree of this.

My daughter has hopes of a family someday. Her idea, at this time is to work for a number of years (5-10) making a very good income, then following this time frame, taking a job that, although still in the MT profession enabled her to lead a more traditional life.

Just a little background; Mydaughter wishes to pursue the MT option. I am attempting to find the motive for such a decision but she is not the warm talkative type. I do know she has this idea of not desiring a traditional job. MT would certainly not be traditional. However, at 19, sometimes one’s motives may not be the most maturely inspired. My daughter was recently (2 Easters ago) confirmed into the Catholic faith. To be perfectly honest I do not know just how much of this came from her heart and how much came from an attempt to please me. I turned my life around in recent years. I think the term for me is “revert”. After a 35 year absence I now take my faith very seriously. Of course this was apparent to my family and has changed much about our lives.

Of course I could go on and on to paint a more detailed picture but I suppose the reason for this post is to get opinions of devout Catholics, such as yourselves on a woman pursing such a path.

Thank you in advance.
 
just curious as to why your daughter did not consider her major as one of the critical factors in choosing a school. Most primarily male-populated schools are engineering or tech based, including the service academies, so someone not interested in such a career will have a hard time preparing for a career at a school with such a focus. If she is not attracted to engineering, I would presume the only other reason she chose the school is the marine tech major. If you and she feels such a career presents problems, why is she at that school in the first place?

Now is the time for her to meet with her counsellor to plan the next 4-5 years, as majors in such schools usually have a very rigid academic plan. If she is not enthused with either program, now is the time to change schools. But before she does she should have sound counselling and testing to help her choose her path.

she may be seeking out a non-traditional career some of the same reasons women in my generation did so: more excitement, more challenges, better use of her talents, more money, but also some kind of feeling we had to prove ourselves in some way, often to please a father.

Since you say she is uncommunicative, she will have to make her own decisions, but if you are paying for her education you have a right to insist she get some sound guidance before you waste tuition on a program that will not meet the reasons she is going to college. That being said, there is nothing inherently wrong with a non-traditional career, and no reason a woman should not pursue such a career. When the time comes for marriage and family she can re-evaluate, bearing in mind that after her family is raised she will have plenty of time to resume her career or find another one.
 
I assume your daughter is not considering being a stay at home mom when she has children. Even if she has no children but gets married, she will be away from her husband a lot, which will not help in building a strong marriage. Maybe if she pictures this, she will reconsider:

It is two weeks after her wedding, the last of the thank-you cards are being mailed, and she and her new husband have just returned from their honeymoon. They enjoy their first full day at home in their new apartment (that still needs much decorating), but they know that tomorrow she will be leaving before dawn to go on a 9-day MT project. After that, she will have two days at home before another 4-day project away. During her two days at home, her husband will be spending 8 hours at his job, 9 hours out of the house if you count the commute. This leaves the newlyweds 30 hours at home together (counting sleeping time) out of 15 days (360 total hours).

I believe that a situation like this would be toxic to family life. Husbands AND wives should avoid travelling away from their families. Their first duty is to God, second duty is to their family. Your daughter is thinking of only herself and her own fulfillment in her career, probably because she doesn’t have a husband or children who need her. If she is planning on taking this job and working for 5-10 years before marrying and having children, she might find Mr. Right next year and have an unplanned pregnancy the year after that. Also, if she is planning on quitting her job when she marries/has kids, what will she do if she is widowed and HAS to go back to work as a single parent?

My husband got degrees in math and music and is now working as an actuary. Yes, it is a “desk job,” but it is challenging, pays well, and may be something worth looking into. I think the website is www.beanactuary.com if you want more info. Here is a Wall Street Journal article about the best and worst jobs, with actuary ranking as the second best job careerjournal.com/salaryhiring/hotissues/20050614-intro1.html?cjpos=home_bricks
 
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just curious as to why your daughter did not consider her major as one of the critical factors in choosing a school. Most primarily male-populated schools are engineering or tech based, including the service academies, so someone not interested in such a career will have a hard time preparing for a career at a school with such a focus. If she is not attracted to engineering, I would presume the only other reason she chose the school is the marine tech major. If you and she feels such a career presents problems, why is she at that school in the first place?

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A few reasons. There are a couple of engineering disaplines; marine and facilities. I knew she wasn’t interested at the time in marine engineering but she hadn’t ruled out facilities engineering. Now she has. The school does offer a number of other majors, all come with varying degrees of issues. At the time of searching and applying, she hadn’t focused on the marine transportation major. Now that she has been there the better part of a semester and has had opportunity to better learn what the majors entail. She has begun to focus on the marine transportation.

There is one other major of interest to her but I would term it a distant second. It has to do with emergency management. The more positive view of this major is that emergency management has become a focus of the country in liu of recent disasters. The more negative view is that the major is new and potential employment is questionable. I think a job in this field may be more condusive to a family life in the future. Of course there may be considerable travel she would likely find a job that was not nearly as restrictive as a life at sea.

There are a number of concerns. My wife is more concerned with my daughter’s future family life. I share this concern but I am more concerned with her spiritual life and the view the church has on career women in general. I guess McCarther’s sermon shook me up a bit. Although since coming back to faith I find I am easily shaken. Often questioning the journey. Although I can see the beauty and truth of our faith and moral values, life sure was more simple when I was an agnostic/atheist.
 
Remember, your daughter has a path to follow that may not be the one you want for her, but may be the one that Christ has in mind for her. It may include children, it may not. It may include marriage. It may not. It may be that she will wander away for awhile (you did) and she may not. What you can do, right now, is LIVE your faith and pray for her - share your experience, your strength and your hope with her but not demand that she accept it. We all know how dumb our parents were when we were 18 and 19, and how much smarter they became when we were 25 and 30.

You taught her the Truth. You gave her a wonderful foundation. Trust it.
 
Since your daughter is not even married yet, I think it’s only natural that she would pursue her interests and think of working to support herself. As others mentioned, you do not know what the future holds for your daughter.

Many of us stay-at-home Moms are college graduates and worked for awhile until we were married and had children. Many of us work part-time from home. Many of us will return to the work force part-time or full-time when our children are older or gone off to college. An education is never wasted. We use what we have learned to teach our children.

Hold your daughter in prayer that she will follow the path Our Lord has set before her, and that if she stumbles or loses her way, she will find her way back (as we all do from time to time 🙂 )
 
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Remember, your daughter has a path to follow that may not be the one you want for her, but may be the one that Christ has in mind for her. It may include children, it may not. It may include marriage. It may not. It may be that she will wander away for awhile (you did) and she may not. What you can do, right now, is LIVE your faith and pray for her - share your experience, your strength and your hope with her but not demand that she accept it. We all know how dumb our parents were when we were 18 and 19, and how much smarter they became when we were 25 and 30.

You taught her the Truth. You gave her a wonderful foundation. Trust it.
Excellent post and advice. Let go and let God.
 
There are a number of concerns. My wife is more concerned with my daughter’s future family life. I share this concern but I am more concerned with her spiritual life and the view the church has on career women in general. I guess McCarther’s sermon shook me up a bit. Although since coming back to faith I find I am easily shaken. Often questioning the journey. Although I can see the beauty and truth of our faith and moral values, life sure was more simple when I was an agnostic/atheist.
No one can predict the future. It may be that she will marry a man that will love to travel with her and be more of a house-husband than a bread winner. There’s nothing wrong with that. Or your daughter may turn all domestic when she marries and begins to have children. Either way, that’s for her to decide.

Let me put you at ease about what the Church teaches about a woman’s place. No where does the Church say that a woman’s place is in the home and not the workplace. That is a Fundamentalist position not shared by the Catholic Church. Do stop listening to this person who is confusing you about this. He’s wrong, wrong, wrong!

Women are not limited to any one position in life. Nor do they have to be always in the home. A financially successful woman can always hire a nanny and stay in contact with her children via satellite phone or email. There are many options for anyone, male or female out there. Let your daughter make her own decisions for her life–she’ll be more likely to keep her faith if she understands that she doesn’t have to choose between her faith and the career of her choice. 😉
 
Here is an essay by Sheila Kippley, a Catholic author, about the first three years of a child’s life. Directly related to your daughter’s major? Probably not. But as Della pointed out, it is good to get a good Catholic opinion, too, not just a Fundamentalist one. This might help you put what you heard on the radio in perspective:

nfpandmore.org/thecrucial.shtml

Pray for your daughter and offer up Holy Hours of Eucharistic Adoration for her discernment of her vocation. 👍
 
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