Neocatechumenate Mass.

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Could someone explain to me exactly what it is? (I’m a non-Catholic who is deeply interested in the Catholic faith).

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Let me explain this as objectively as possible, given that I am not in support of their methods.

The movement was started in the 60s by a catechist named Kiko Arguello and a former nun named Carmen (I forget her last name) in Spain. The motive was a great one: to bring street people, prostitutes and drug addicts back to the Catholic fold.

In a nutshell, the movement tries to equate people’s falling away from the Church to a sort of pagan state, and has a conversion process that is similar to the steps the early Christian converts would take to be converted and baptized. It consists of around 8 years of different steps that you have to take to be considered fully converted (or re-converted). They use their own catechism to teach their adherents in “The Way,” as they call it. The early Christians used to call the Faith “The Way” as a sort of underground code.

In practical terms, what this means is that a group of “catechists” will approach a pastor and ask to present their method of conversion to a parish community. They present a series of talks, around two months long, and whoever is left after that period is up goes on a retreat with the catechists where they get you to decide whether you want to follow this “Way” or not.

Their liturgical practices are outside the norm. Their version of the Mass is more of a throwback to the Jewish ways during the days after Christ’s Ascension. They are definitely not for everyone, and traditional Catholics take real issue with their manipulation of the rites. Seems like moving to the “novus ordo” Mass was probably change enough!😉 But there are some legitimate questions about whether true consecration happens within those celebrations or whether the fact that they sit for Communion is sacreligious or not.

The problems stem from the fact that the indoctrination is in the theological take of the NCW, not necessarily the Church. They do not ever use the Catechism of the Catholic Church (the primary source of Church teaching) in any of the course of the steps. I personally have not ever heard of any mechanism within their movement to teach their adherents anything about the way the rest of the Church believes, practices or celebrates. I pray that there are exceptions to this rule.

Another issue is the bond that is created between adherent and “catechist.” Because of the methods used to break down one’s “resistance to conversion,” in some cases there is this Svengali-like attachment to the catechist. So then instead of inspiring wisdom and personal discernment, there is the potential for the adherent to do everything the catechist says. The danger is that since their theology is questionable in the first place, they are breeding heretics.

I would much rather recommend to you, as someone who is discerning the Church, to follow the more traditional ways to learn about Her. The US Council of Bishops released a new, American-focused Catechism that I actually think is a wonderful book. I used it last year for my RCIA class. You can get it here.

This is, of course, my take. I’ve tried to be as objective as possible.

My prayer is that the Holy Spirit guide you in this time of discernment!
 
A few questions:

About what percentage of Catholics belong to this group?
Does it look like the Vatican is going to fix all their liturgical abuses any time soon? Are they likely to listen?

In my opinion, this isn’t even a charism–the Benedictines, Franciscans, and Dominicans all follow the same CCC and say the same mass. The fact that these people have virtually nothing in common with the Catholic Church, and lack loyalty to the magisterium, means that they aren’t a charism. A charism is merely a movement emphasizing a traditional teaching, concentrating on it over other virtues. A charism isn’t about making something up.

And who does this Kiko guy think he is? Layman, no post-secondary theological education, not even capable of creating traditional Catholic art. I know some old nuns who deserve to be leaders of a religious movement far more than this guy.
 
A few questions:

About what percentage of Catholics belong to this group?
Does it look like the Vatican is going to fix all their liturgical abuses any time soon? Are they likely to listen?

In my opinion, this isn’t even a charism–the Benedictines, Franciscans, and Dominicans all follow the same CCC and say the same mass. The fact that these people have virtually nothing in common with the Catholic Church, and lack loyalty to the magisterium, means that they aren’t a charism. A charism is merely a movement emphasizing a traditional teaching, concentrating on it over other virtues. A charism isn’t about making something up.

And who does this Kiko guy think he is? Layman, no post-secondary theological education, not even capable of creating traditional Catholic art. I know some old nuns who deserve to be leaders of a religious movement far more than this guy.

I can’t really say what % belong to this movement–but Kiko Arguello has followers just about everywhere-- in the Americas, Europe, etc even in the Russia. They have now made their way into some Eastern rite Churches.

The Church is currently trying to correct their abuses–but the Neocatechumenals answer to one man—Kiko Arguello. The problems that we have been experiencing this last 40 or so years that we have been attributing to the “Spirit of Vat II” are actually the influence this movement has had on the Church. Where ever they go–the Church and Her Mass suffers.

Also—the Neocatechumenals tried to integrate into the Orthodox Church but they were denied. I honestly do not believe this denial is going to stop them from getting access to the Orthodox people.
 
A few questions:

About what percentage of Catholics belong to this group?
Does it look like the Vatican is going to fix all their liturgical abuses any time soon? Are they likely to listen?

In my opinion, this isn’t even a charism–the Benedictines, Franciscans, and Dominicans all follow the same CCC and say the same mass. The fact that these people have virtually nothing in common with the Catholic Church, and lack loyalty to the magisterium, means that they aren’t a charism. A charism is merely a movement emphasizing a traditional teaching, concentrating on it over other virtues. A charism isn’t about making something up.

And who does this Kiko guy think he is? Layman, no post-secondary theological education, not even capable of creating traditional Catholic art. I know some old nuns who deserve to be leaders of a religious movement far more than this guy.
I have seen some rough membership numbers at around 100,00 worldwide.

As far as the liturgical abuses, Cardinal Arinze from the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments sent Kiko and Carmen a letter in December 2005 regarding the liturgical practices. They were given two years to clean up their act. The full run-down is here.

As far as your charism point is concerned, I agree. That’s a big issue with me, because I never understood the necessity (read: arrogance) of needing to change the liturgy if you call yourself Roman Catholic. The beauty of our universality is that on any Sunday, the rest of the Church around the world is hearing the same Gospel you are, and you can even understand what’s going on in the Mass whether you can understand the vernacular or not. As a developing liturgist, these NCW celebrations had me on my toes. Not only was I NOT falling naturally into the gestures and responses of the Mass, but I was also horrified to see how people were simply dusting the crumbs from their hands after receiving Communion.

I don’t think there’s necessarily anything wrong with a layperson providing catechetical direction, especially after Vatican II. But you are right about his credentials. Being well-meaning isn’t enough…that’s the problem we’re running into as Church in the first place.

And his art? 😃 Ha ha! I guess art is too subjective…it’s all in the eye of the beholder. I just don’t like how the NCW communities are compelled to use only his icon images and processional cross. It’s very James Jones-ish.

They would say that they do have obedience to the Magisterum, but in reality, if you read some of the push-back they voice in the articles that are widely available, you have to wonder. There is this long history of the spin when all that’s required is to simply obey. Check out Jimmy Akin’s blog for a great example of this: jimmyakin.org/2006/01/neocatechumenal.html

It pays to be really involved in your parish so that you can be ready when these folks come a-knockin’. For those who are traditional Catholics, here is your opportunity to find points of collaboration with the Novus Ordo folks in your parish so that we can defend the orthodoxy of our Faith. Look for ways in which we are the same, and don’t put undue attention in the ways we are different. As St. Augustine said, “Do not be offended by the imperfect while you strive for the perfect.”
 
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