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Dorothy
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I went back to that particular post and questioned that poster (Kirane) for specifics. (a few posts above). Hopefully, he/she will enlighten us.
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mari1234
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For the masses “with a flavor from the culture from which it came…”
That’s not wrong, as long as it is done with reverance and respect for Jesus in the Eucharist. Our church is universal so of course some masses are going to be in different languages. This isn’t going against what the Church and Jesus taught.
However, new age is. The new age does not promote Jesus.
God Bless
That’s not wrong, as long as it is done with reverance and respect for Jesus in the Eucharist. Our church is universal so of course some masses are going to be in different languages. This isn’t going against what the Church and Jesus taught.
However, new age is. The new age does not promote Jesus.
God Bless
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mari1234
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Yes Dorothy, I believe you are correct in that just because a bishop or cardinal does something contrary to what the Catholic Church/Jesus teaches does not make it OK.
(Please correct me if that’s not what you were trying to say)
God Bless
(Please correct me if that’s not what you were trying to say)
God Bless
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Dorothy
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Yes, you are correct. In many instances it is obvious what is being promoted/tolerated is wrong, and can be cited, but, I am not totally aware of what is happening under Cardonal Mahoney’s jurisdiction, so really cannot comment.Yes Dorothy, I believe you are correct in that just because a bishop or cardinal does something contrary to what the Catholic Church/Jesus teaches does not make it OK.
(Please correct me if that’s not what you were trying to say)
God Bless
I await a response from the poster who brought this up.
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mari1234
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I think some of my questions got lost in the thread.
Does anyone know about any protocals I need to follow when writing the bishop?
Also does it matter if I write the bishop or archbishop about the new age stuff in the retreat center?
Thanks!
Does anyone know about any protocals I need to follow when writing the bishop?
Also does it matter if I write the bishop or archbishop about the new age stuff in the retreat center?
Thanks!
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Fiat_Lumen
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Mari,
I would call the Archdiocese and inquire about the correct form to address a letter to the Archbishop. By all means, write to him about the New Age ushering in the Retreat Center. But do not expect any positive response because he may not find any.
FIAT VOLUNTAS TUA
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tjmiller
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From past successes and failures in addrressing local prelates in such matters,
I have experienced that first it helps for you to set yourself up relative to his position. Read his Pastoral Letters, set yourself up first as a willing proponent of the proper doctrine therein. Address him as Your Excellency - however uncomfortable it may make both of you. Even kiss his ring! Show yourself not to be a rabid activist with an axe to grind, but rather as a confused, sincere lay faithful with serious questions, seriously to be answered. Don’t be an amateur magisterium, but a hurt sheep who needs help from the shepherd. But stick to your guns.
Paradigm: On the one hand you/yourpeople/your texts say THIS. But on the other hand, the Catholic Church/Catechism teaches THAT. “I’m so confused: How can I reconcile these contradictory premises”? You therefore put the proverbial ball into the Heresiarch’s court, very respectfully. Even if his answers are unsatisfactory, stick to your issue. ABOVE ALL: Write or speak to a prelate only about one issue at a time! Triage your wounded (pick your battles, sacrificing some issues for the sake of more gravely important.)
Build up good will. Should you not succeed in this case, your respectful, obedient and sophisticated manner of presentation sets you up nicely for the next audience. We are playing politics here, after all. Abandon the blind passion for orthodoxy, but set your sights instead upon the cynically practicable. THIS WORKS! Bishops who wou not otherwise give you time of day will gladly accomodate you - once you prove to have earned the right.
I have experienced that first it helps for you to set yourself up relative to his position. Read his Pastoral Letters, set yourself up first as a willing proponent of the proper doctrine therein. Address him as Your Excellency - however uncomfortable it may make both of you. Even kiss his ring! Show yourself not to be a rabid activist with an axe to grind, but rather as a confused, sincere lay faithful with serious questions, seriously to be answered. Don’t be an amateur magisterium, but a hurt sheep who needs help from the shepherd. But stick to your guns.
Paradigm: On the one hand you/yourpeople/your texts say THIS. But on the other hand, the Catholic Church/Catechism teaches THAT. “I’m so confused: How can I reconcile these contradictory premises”? You therefore put the proverbial ball into the Heresiarch’s court, very respectfully. Even if his answers are unsatisfactory, stick to your issue. ABOVE ALL: Write or speak to a prelate only about one issue at a time! Triage your wounded (pick your battles, sacrificing some issues for the sake of more gravely important.)
Build up good will. Should you not succeed in this case, your respectful, obedient and sophisticated manner of presentation sets you up nicely for the next audience. We are playing politics here, after all. Abandon the blind passion for orthodoxy, but set your sights instead upon the cynically practicable. THIS WORKS! Bishops who wou not otherwise give you time of day will gladly accomodate you - once you prove to have earned the right.
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