New Approach on Heresy?

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This guy made a website that seems to have a new post apocalyptic approach to some kind of utopian Catholic world. He draws on martyrs, laws, and philosophy by saints and popes.

It’s a weird take on catholicism. It’s somewhat violent, but what is everyone’s opinion on this kind of approach: http://ultramontanus.weebly.com
 
Can you give a better description of the link? This would have been expressly forbidden on the old boards.

Not for nuthin’ but we have no idea if you’re trying to shamelessly self-promote, and if not, we have no idea if that link is safe to click.
 
It’s a weebly link so it’s a safe link by default.
Anyways I found it in a catholic chat on kik. A lot of different views on Catholicism on that app, and instagram.
 
It’s a weebly link so it’s a safe link by default.
Anyways I found it in a catholic chat on kik. A lot of different views on Catholicism on that app, and instagram.
LOL. You’re nieve to think that “just because it’s XYZ” it’s safe. Nope. That’s not how the internet works.

Again, give us something more. A quote, a real description–something that lets us know we’re not clicking something we shouldn’t be.
 
Here’s a quote from the blog:
"Ultramontanism, (from Medieval Latin ultramontanus, “beyond the mountains”), in Roman Catholicism, a strong emphasis on papal authority and on centralization of the church. The word identified those northern European members of the church who regularly looked southward beyond the Alps (that is, to the popes of Rome) for guidance.

During the period of struggle within the church over the extent of papal prerogatives—beginning especially in the 15th century with the conciliar movement and continuing in the following centuries with the growth of strong nationalism and theological liberalism—the Ultramontanists were opposed by those, such as the Gallicans, who wished to restrict papal power. The Ultramontane Party triumphed in 1870 at the first Vatican Council when the dogma of papal infallibility was defined as a matter of Roman Catholic belief.

In the modern Church, the Ultramontanist movement nostalgically looks to the past for the answers against the modern iniquities that often plague not only the West, but the world. Ultramontanism extends the Pope’s authority to temporal control, not only spiritual oversight, believing that he, being the Vicar of Christ, is the absolute law and ruler of the tangible world. Therefore, although seeming somewhat of a zealot point-of-view, the Ultramontanists of today’s era hope to restore the Pope as head of not only the Church, but the head of the world as he once was during Christendom.

The methodology for achieving this may seem unorthodox, however the Ultramontanist beliefs are attributed as far back as St. Peter’s apostolic missions in Rome, St. Augustine’s rule in North Africa, St. Boniface’s defiance in modern day Germany, and the joyful martyrdom of the many holy men and women across the world who gave their life for Christ during great persecutions.

To an Ultramontanist the world is plagued by secularist propaganda that has taken root in governments, which stems from protestant revolutions and beliefs. The only way to rid the world of these forces is truly by force."
 
So basically an internet nutter with a keyboard and the knowledge of how to get an IP address.
 
Sounds like utopianism to me. That’s not what Christianity is about. We will never achieve perfection in this life because we live in a fallen world. Trying to ‘immanentize the eschaton’ only ever results in greater human misery. It’s better to focus on living the Gospel in our own lives, and preaching it by our words and our works. To try to seize earthly power and compel everybody to be good Catholics at the point of a gun, doesn’t seem like the best way to serve Christ. I know we had a situation where the Pope had power over the rulers of Europe in the past, which grew up organically, but to be revanchists for that in the secular and pluralistic world of the 21st century is madness.

On a more practical level, ultramonatism is harder to sustain in the information age where everybody knows every single utterance of the Pope and has their two cents on it. The ultramonatist under one Pope will become a scathing critic of the next. In past centuries most people neither had access to that kind of information, nor the leisure time to worry themselves much about such things.
 
This is actually a known topic. Its been prophecized by Our Lady at La Salette which is approved by the church. I think some other saints talked about it as well but I could be wrong. Its known as the period of peace where there is to be great prosperity in the church and most will be converted except for in small pockets of the world. A great Catholic ruler will reign during this time.
 
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