New Eucharistic Prayer and Sign of Cross

[DadDave]

I noticed in missalette that it appears there’s a sign of the cross in the new Eucharistic prayer ( I think it’s prayer III ). Am I understanding that cross symbol correctly that we’re supposed to do the sign of the cross?

 

[YoungTradCath]

I don’t recall any Sign of the Cross in the third EP, even with the new translation. There has always been a Sign of the Cross, a striking of the breast and a bow made in the Roman Canon (first EP), things that only the priest alone do, but this hasn’t changed.

 

[DadDave]

I don’t recall any Sign of the Cross in the third EP, even with the new translation. There has always been a Sign of the Cross, a striking of the breast and a bow made in the Roman Canon (first EP), things that only the priest alone do, but this hasn’t changed.

OK… duh… that’s what it must be… for the Priest. I’m following along and forgetting it’s the priest saying the prayer and doing the actions… thanks!

 

[CatholicPraises]

A new sign of cross and prayers?? Good Golly I like the old traditional way.

 

[Theophorus]

A new sign of cross and prayers?? Good Golly I like the old traditional way.

Would that be the extraordinary form traditional way or the superseded English translation ‘traditional’ way?

I noticed in missalette that it appears there’s a sign of the cross in the new Eucharistic prayer ( I think it’s prayer III ). Am I understanding that cross symbol correctly that we’re supposed to do the sign of the cross?

It’s most likely for the Priest but whereabouts in the E.P is the sign of the Cross?

 

[FrDavid96]

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It’s most likely for the Priest but whereabouts in the E.P is the sign of the Cross?

In the 2nd half of E.P. I

The priest bows and says

In humble prayer we ask you, almighty God,
command that these gifts be borne
by the hands of your holy Angel…
[cross]
may be filled with every grace and heavenly blessing.

If it helps to trigger your memory,
here’s the old ICEL adaptation

Almighty God,
we pray that your angel may take this sacrifice…
[cross]
let us be filled with every grace and blessing.

 

[jimrob]

I’m not sure what it’s doing in the Missalette. The priest makes the sign of the cross: the congregation don’t.

In the Tridentine days, all of the sanctuary staff would make the sign of the cross at this point in the Canon of the Mass. With the OF only the priest makes the sign of the cross at this point in Eucharistic Prayer 1. I always used to join in (having been an altar server since 1954) but a priest asked me not to do it.

 

[FrDavid96]

I’m not sure what it’s doing in the Missalette. The priest makes the sign of the cross: the congregation don’t.

In the Tridentine days, all of the sanctuary staff would make the sign of the cross at this point in the Canon of the Mass. With the OF only the priest makes the sign of the cross at this point in Eucharistic Prayer 1. I always used to join in (having been an altar server since 1954) but a priest asked me not to do it.

It “has to be” in the missalettes because part of the copyright permission requires that if the text of the Mass is printed, it must be the entire text, without alteration. So, if the cross in in the official Missal, it’s required to be there in the missalette.

 

[jimrob]

It “has to be” in the missalettes because part of the copyright permission requires that if the text of the Mass is printed, it must be the entire text, without alteration. So, if the cross in in the official Missal, it’s required to be there in the missalette.

I have a Farnworth Missalette in front of me for the 1st Sunday of Advent (don’t ask). It has Eucharistic Prayer 1 with no cross. I know copyright rules differ between the UK and the USA. The American Missal and the Latin Missal are on-line. The one used in England and Wales never will be.

 

[FrDavid96]

I have a Farnworth Missalette in front of me for the 1st Sunday of Advent (don’t ask). It has Eucharistic Prayer 1 with no cross. I know copyright rules differ between the UK and the USA. The American Missal and the Latin Missal are on-line. The one used in England and Wales never will be.

The legalities of the copyright are are the “result” rather than the “cause.” It’s Rome who insists that the text of the Mass cannot be altered when it’s printed, and so as a result of that copyright agreements have to stipulate this. I don’t want to get us off on a tangent–I just wanted to explain my earlier comment.

If what you’re looking at is a 1-day missalette…well, they probably just got away with it. Nothing to make an issue about.

I’m really not trying to start a sub-thread about what is or is-not allowed when printing worship aids. Instead I was just trying to answer someone’s question who wanted to know why the sign of the cross would be printed in a book intended for the congregation, given that the congregation does not do this. After all, the question makes a lot of sense, and it would also apply to other parts of the Mass. Someone else might be wonderring “if only the priest holds up the Host and says ‘Behold the Lamb of God…’ why do they need to print the rubric in a book intended for the congregation?”