New Priest (Novus Ordo)

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This post is not to compare TLM vs. traditional NO but only to show that proper predisposition is what our Church needs.

This past Saturday our Diocese lost three seminarians. Now we have three new priests. Thanks be to God!

One of the new priests is from my parish and I had the privilege of going through all the series of ceremonies. Friday night we had the Vespers service with the blessing of the Sacrament and Gregorian chanting (mostly in Latin). The new priest trained for years with a Gregorian Chanting group. Saturday the ordination was a little bit less formal but great.

The only thing that bothered me was with the people clapping. The Bishop told them to stop but some kept going. My 11 year old stated that it was not only rude but an act of defiant disobedience to the Bishop. Can the grown ups have the same wisdom?

On Sunday the Thanksgiving Mass was beautiful. The co-celebrants were the Emeritus Bishop, the Pastor, the first member of the Parish to become a priest, a Monsignor that has been the priest that baptized our pastor and that has also been the spiritual director of the new priest, 4 more priests, deacon, instituted acolytes, and at least 12 altar servers. Most of the Music was chanted in Latin, and the new priest chanted most of the liturgy. (He did not really have any choice, because our Pastor usually chants most of the Mass)

I realized once more how these kind of events celebrated in a traditional manner are really important for vocations. During the reception I discovered that a few young men from our parish are finishing with high school and are asking information about going to the Seminary. Two of them were servers at the Vespers service. I was also pleased that our Pastor told my son to serve at the Thanksgiving Mass, even if he already served at the Vigil Mass the night before. That will help him with his vocation.
 
Cristiano said:
This past Saturday our Diocese lost three seminarians. Now we have three new priests. Thanks be to God!
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That’s good but I think we don’t need to distinguish priests as Novus Ordo or Traditional. If they are duly authorized, then they are Catholic priests.

Novus Ordo refers to the Rite of Mass they say. (Some say Novus Ordo refers to the sacraments as well but I think that goes too far. I don’t consider my confession Novus Ordo, for example.) Either way the bishop determines which rite they can say and at which parish they serve. Some priests (and bishops) say both rites and I hope all three will at least be open to both.
 
BobP123 said:
That’s good but I think we don’t need to distinguish priests as Novus Ordo or Traditional. If they are duly authorized, then they are Catholic priests.
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I was differentiating between Tridentine Latin Mass and Traditional NO. My emphasis is that both can be and should be Traditional (and orthodox) even if the liturgical form is different.
 
Cristiano said:
I was differentiating between Tridentine Latin Mass and Traditional NO. My emphasis is that both can be and should be Traditional (and orthodox) even if the liturgical form is different.
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Traditional NO? It only started in 1970. 🙂
 
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Yes, and by 1971 we already had weird freelance innovations.😃
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Actually the innovations started before the 1970 Missal. The Novus Ordo, if anything, was promulgated (and accepted) to restore some sanity in the liturgy, if you can believe that. The first version in 1967 was rejected by the bishops; I wonder what that would have been like. :eek:
 
Cristiano said:
This post is not to compare TLM vs. traditional NO but only to show that proper predisposition is what our Church needs.

This past Saturday our Diocese lost three seminarians. Now we have three new priests. Thanks be to God!

One of the new priests is from my parish and I had the privilege of going through all the series of ceremonies. Friday night we had the Vespers service with the blessing of the Sacrament and Gregorian chanting (mostly in Latin). The new priest trained for years with a Gregorian Chanting group. Saturday the ordination was a little bit less formal but great.

The only thing that bothered me was with the people clapping. The Bishop told them to stop but some kept going. My 11 year old stated that it was not only rude but an act of defiant disobedience to the Bishop. Can the grown ups have the same wisdom?

On Sunday the Thanksgiving Mass was beautiful. The co-celebrants were the Emeritus Bishop, the Pastor, the first member of the Parish to become a priest, a Monsignor that has been the priest that baptized our pastor and that has also been the spiritual director of the new priest, 4 more priests, deacon, instituted acolytes, and at least 12 altar servers. Most of the Music was chanted in Latin, and the new priest chanted most of the liturgy. (He did not really have any choice, because our Pastor usually chants most of the Mass)

I realized once more how these kind of events celebrated in a traditional manner are really important for vocations. During the reception I discovered that a few young men from our parish are finishing with high school and are asking information about going to the Seminary. Two of them were servers at the Vespers service. I was also pleased that our Pastor told my son to serve at the Thanksgiving Mass, even if he already served at the Vigil Mass the night before. That will help him with his vocation.
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I though there is a part of the Ordination rite that everybody claps?? To show the bishop that the man is in goodstanding and acceptable to the community.
 
I was an altar boy from 1960 through 1968. Been there, done that. This is what we were told from the pulpit - we will be transitioning from the Mass in Latin to the Mass in English. It will be done over several years. In actual fact, it was done in 2 because the Mass that I attended for my high school graduation would be recognizable to most of you except for the now exuberant sign of peace and the equally exuberant hand holding for the Our Father. But, oh yes, we had my classmates with guitars a’strumin’, a’grinnin’, and a’swayin’ to that now immmortal (but highly non-pc classic Sons of God Hear His Holy Word, and They’ll Know We Are Christians…oh, and Sound of Silence and Bridge Over Troubled Water - May, 1969).

I watched a video of the ordination of our five deacons to the priesthood Sunday and had to pick my jaw up off the floor. At the end of Mass, bishop, priests, and congregation stood and chanted the Salve Regina before processing out. The camera panned priests and people and you could see that they were singing their hearts out - particularly people my age. There is hope. I am on hiatus from the cathedral choir but I have sung in the choir since 1983. This is the first time that this has been done.

And, yes, clapping is done to acclaim the young priest (or notso young priest since one was in his late 40s and the other, a widower, in his late 50s).

And, there was no muppet music sung for the ordination. None! No Haugen, Haas. No, I will go UP! to the altar of God. The choir actually sang Bach’s Sheep May Safely Graze at Communion.

And, no crystal bowls or goblets used this year! Genuine chalices! One of the deacons is from our cathedral parish and as Father pointed out in the bulletin, he was ordained in the very same vestments that Father was ordained in back in 1957!
 
They only grow orthodox seminarians down here in Texas!

Last weekend, my schola sang at an ordination down in the Victoria Diocese (TX). We were it - no other choirs. Many traditional hymns, polyphonic pieces, and, of course, Gregorian chant. We had a few modern pieces in there (didn’t want to alienate everyone throughout the whole Mass), but even those were sung polyphonic to maintain the ethos. The deacon of the Altar was a young seminarian, and he knew all of our chants by heart. We talked to him afterwards, and he was rock solid Catholic, baby!

People need to go to an ordination if they have the chance. THe young men rising through the ranks love the Church, her traditions, and her truths - and they are willing to devote their lives to Her.

Along the same lines, one of the priests ordained the same weekend in our diocese was a member of a schola. I talked to him when he was still a seminarian, and he kept saying, “Just wait until I’m ordained…”
 
TLMassAcolyte said:
I though there is a part of the Ordination rite that everybody claps?? To show the bishop that the man is in goodstanding and acceptable to the community.
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Yes you are correct. However, they should not clap every time a candidate/ordained priest is called or does something. If the Bishop says stop and wait, then people should stop and wait.
 
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