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It’s a holy day of obligation right? Our parish isn’t doing New Years Eve masses for some reason.
 
bones_IV said:
It’s a holy day of obligation right? Our parish isn’t doing New Years Eve masses for some reason.
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I was told by our priest today that in the US it is not a Holy Day of obligation because it falls on a Monday. I checked my Catholic calendar and it said the same thing so I think the priest is correct.
 
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I was told by our priest today that in the US it is not a Holy Day of obligation because it falls on a Monday. I checked my Catholic calendar and it said the same thing so I think the priest is correct.
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I’m not sure that’s correct.
 
Diocese of Phoenix . . . no obligation since the Holy Day falls on Monday, the obligation is transferred to Sunday.

As was announced in our parish “The Good News is that every Sunday is still an obligation to worship and an opportunity to receive our Lord Jesus in Holy Communion.”
 
For the umpteenth time on these fora,
  1. Evening of December 31 through all day January 1 = Solemnity of Holy Mary, Mother of God
  2. Mass obligation removed in the USA (presumably because the US Bishops don’t think it should be mandatory to go to Mass twice in a row)
  3. Therefore, the Solemnity remains, from Sunday night through Monday, but Mass attendance is optional.
The End.
 
Prayer_Warrior said:
I was told by our priest today that in the US it is not a Holy Day of obligation because it falls on a Monday. I checked my Catholic calendar and it said the same thing so I think the priest is correct.
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Our priest told us the same thing. Sunday mass also counts for the holy day.
 
I just check my Archdiocese web site and it is not a Holy Day of Obligation. Saying that, I will probably go to Mass if I wake up on time.
 
Be very careful of the common error of talking about what “counts” for what.

Sunday is Sunday, Holy Family, from Saturday night through midafternoon Sunday.

Sunday night through Monday all day is the Solemnity.

The former has the usual Sunday obligation. The latter has NO obligation in the USA (regrettable as that may well be).

Any Mass celebrated on Sunday night must be of January 1. However, because the obligation to attend Sunday Mass says nothing about liturgical texts, etc., attendance at such a Mass fulfills the Sunday obligation. It doesn’t fulfill January 1, because there is NO OBLIGATION this year for January 1.

This is really not that hard to grasp, but many parishes make it more complicated than it really is.
 
We did choir practice this morning.
We will go to the 4:30 because my hubby is an Usher.
Tomorrow the girls sing at 9:30. (no staying up til midnight tonight)
And we will be back at 7:00pm tomorrow.

If anyone needs an intention prayed for, PM me.
I’ll cover you.

Also, it might be a good idea to attend Holy Mass for the 1st of January anyway. Invite Our Lord into your home for the New Year. One of our wonderful priests (God Bless him and grant him long life) told me to invite Our Lord to our dinner table and ask for peace in our home.
My newly Catholic hubby put a really nice shelf above our table and it has become our home altar. It just seems right to have it where he put it.
 
Our Church been having new year’s Mass every year, never changes because of a priest that we have in our Church.
 
I’m in Canada, where January 1 is still a Holy Day of Obligation, but I’m a bit confused. I went to Sunday Mass this morning, but although the priest said that we have to attend Mass tomorrow, he seemed to imply that the first Mass for the Solemnity would be at midnight. We have a 7 pm Mass tonight, so wouldn’t this one also have to be a Mass for the Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God, instead of a Sunday Mass? Would going at 7 pm tonight fulfill my obligation January 1, or does this depend on the texts, etc. used in the Mass? :confused:

Karolina
 
Although some people…clergy and laity…seem to have enormous problems grasping this…

ANY Mass tonight MUST be of January 1. January 1 is a solemnity and outranks Holy Family. Tonight Vespers are of January 1 and the Mass must be of January 1. No options, no anything.

Clearly this could raise confusion in those locales where there are Masses regularly scheduled for Sunday evening.

This is why Canon Law does not specify your obligation depends on the given liturgy.

I am continually amazed at how confused some people (again, clergy and laity) seem to get over the really very simple rubrics of the Novus Ordo system.

Any Mass celebrated on the evening of Sunday, December 31 must be of January 1; First Vespers of January 1 are celebrated, and there is nothing of the Holy Family.

Obviously, liturgically minded Catholics will want to celebrate Holy Family AND January 1. Technically, a Mass on Sunday night would count for Sunday AND the Solemnity the next day, which is why 1) some locales explicitly note there is no obligation for the Solemnity and/or 2) there is an obligation to attend BOTH liturgies, i.e., Holy Family and January 1.

But sheesh…forget legalism and just celebrate Holy Family from Saturday night through Sunday midafternoon, and January 1 from Sunday night through any time Monday.

Case closed.
 
I am in the US. Diocese of Austin, TX

Our preist this morning said that tomorrow IS a Holy Day of Obligation and we are having one mass at 9 am, please be there. We have a really small parish and he is tired of the same handful showing up for Holy Days.
 
Actually, there are a few parishes I have heard of here and there in the USA where the schedule of Masses for January 1 is identical to a “normal” Holy Day.

I applaud such behavior. There was zero justification for abrogating the obligation just because it’s a Monday (talk about liturgical propriety). The only explanation was a sense that people shouldn’t be expected to go to Mass two days in a row.

While there is no requirement to go tomorrow anywhere in the USA, I applaud any strong encouragement that can be given to ignore a regrettable decision of the US Bishops.

For once, we can thank secular society for something. If Christmas Day were not still a federal holiday, etc., you can bet the US Bishops would have voted either to move it or remove the obligation when it falls on Saturday or Monday.
 
I was under the impression that it is up to the local Bishops to decide whether a Holy Day of Obligation falling on a Monday or Saturday can be dispensed or not (of course except Christmas and the Immaculate Conception).

Therefore the statement that in the US Jan 1 is not a Holy Day of Obligation would not be correct as in some dioceses the Bishops can decide to keep the Holy Day of Obligation?

I guess the best is to check your diocese’s website or ask your Pastor before deciding not to go to Mass for Jan 1 just in case in your diocese it is a Holy Day of Obligation.
 
maternus said:
I am in the US. Diocese of Austin, TX

Our preist this morning said that tomorrow IS a Holy Day of Obligation and we are having one mass at 9 am, please be there. We have a really small parish and he is tired of the same handful showing up for Holy Days.
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Our priest said basically the same thing. I don’t remember exactly how he said it, but it amounted to the fact that Jan. 1 is a Holy Day and we still have an obligation to attend Mass. Our regular Holy Day mass schedule will be followed tomorrow with the exception of the evening Mass. Since it is also a legal holiday, most people will not be working so the evening Mass is not needed.
 
If a Holy Day falls on Saturday or a Monday, the obligation is lifted in the USA. There are two exceptions to this. Christmas never loses its obligation no mater what day of the week it falls on. Generally the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception doesn’t either because Mary is the Patroness of the USA under that title. The Immaculate Conception only loses its obligation if December 8th falls on a Sunday, causing the church to observe the Solemnity on Monday December 9th. When the Immaculate Conception is observed on Monday December 9th, it is no longer a day of obligation.

However just because the obligation is lifted does not mean that you shouldn’t attend Mass if you are able to. I went to Mass today, I had the day off. When a Holy Day loses its obligation however, depending on your pastor, there may not be any additional masses other then the daily Mass schedule. Which is why many churches did not celebrate a Mass on the preceding evening. My pastor had an additional Mass celebrated today on top of our daily Mass, but did not celebrate one last night. We had some people from neighboring parishes attending, because their church didn’t celebrate Mass at all today… The lifting of Obligations of Holy Days that fall on Saturdays or Mondays is to make it easier on our Priests as well as people who have to juggle work and their families schedules with going to Mass two days in a row. However me being single and I had the day off anyways, there was nothing to hinder me from attending Mass today. Are we getting the picture here? 🙂
 
My wonderful Pastor (May God Bless him and grant him long life) said, “Althought it’s not a Holy Day of Obligation, it’s also not a Holy Day of Prohibition. You are more than welcome to join us at Holy Mass”

The 9:30 was PACKED this morning!!!
 
It’s hard enough getting people to go to mass twice in a row for Christmas. I don’t think many people would go twice in a row again.
 
It is a Holy Day here (Japan). We have Sunday Mass on the 31st at 10am, Vigil Mass for Jan st on Saturday evening, midnight Mass and 10am Monday. Nobody complains about going 2 days in a row.

Gearoidin
 
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