NFP: 99% Effective?

[llfarms]

I’ll just also point out that “perfect use” sometimes means “don’t ever have intercourse.” If your biological markers don’t give you conclusive data, you’re pretty much stuck with abstaining 100% of the time in order to meet the perfect use criteria.

Don’t get me wrong, I believe in the church’s teaching on human sexuality, but NFP doesn’t work for everybody. I think NFP would be more successful if we didn’t try to oversell it.

@ lowander Yes, that is the problem we have. And the fact that we have had kids using it now is in the back of my wifes mind ever time we could be together.

Soooo, now with 5 mo w/o being together it is getting a bit rough.

As for speaking the priest we get “it is the approved method, and you will know your body for wife”. It some how is still disconcerting . i cant even look at my wife w/o clothes because I will see what I may not have… It is getting very frustrating living like best friend room-mates. We feel weak.

 

[Iowander]

@ lowander Yes, that is the problem we have. And the fact that we have had kids using it now is in the back of my wifes mind ever time we could be together.

Soooo, now with 5 mo w/o being together it is getting a bit rough.

As for speaking the priest we get “it is the approved method, and you will know your body for wife”. It some how is still disconcerting . i cant even look at my wife w/o clothes because I will see what I may not have… It is getting very frustrating living like best friend room-mates. We feel weak.

I know how you feel. You might look into the Marquette model ( nfp.marquette.com ) if you haven’t already. We recently started using it, and it looks promising. It uses the Clearblue Easy fertility monitor which is bar far better than any other marker for us. It has a few hang-ups, but it is our best hope.

 

[x0stephanie]

In theory it seems like it should be 100% effective, if a couple follows all the rules properly… but its not as simple as that. I dont really trust it anymore for avoiding pregnancy, luckily we’re trying to conceive so it doesnt matter.

My husband and i got pregnant using the creighton model 3 full days past my “peak” aka ovulation, which isn’t supposed to happen, and it was the only act of intercourse all month. Apparently an egg is only viable for 24 hours after ovulation, so it doesnt make a lot of sense to me.

 

[Seatuck]

I know the catholic church is against the birth-control pill for men and woman, but is the catholic church against the use of condoms? It seems to me that it would be okay if it is in the act of intercourse?

NFP does seem like a great way to sort out your fertility weeks and non-fertile days, but just be careful. It is safe if you know your cycle by heart.

Condoms are a contraceptive and considered intrinsically evil in marriage.It puts a barrier between husband and wife forming the one flesh union and being total gifts of themselves to each other.

 

[agapewolf]

In theory it seems like it should be 100% effective, if a couple follows all the rules properly… but its not as simple as that. I dont really trust it anymore for avoiding pregnancy, luckily we’re trying to conceive so it doesnt matter.

My husband and i got pregnant using the creighton model 3 full days past my “peak” aka ovulation, which isn’t supposed to happen, and it was the only act of intercourse all month. Apparently an egg is only viable for 24 hours after ovulation, so it doesnt make a lot of sense to me.

This isn’t creighton. You are supposed to wait till evening of the 4th day. You didn’t use the method correctly. Peak day does not equal ovulation day.

 

[manualman]

This isn’t creighton. You are supposed to wait till evening of the 4th day. You didn’t use the method correctly. Peak day does not equal ovulation day.

It isn’t Billings either. That goes Peak day, anticipation day #1, anticipation day #2, anticipation day #3, WooHoo day #4!

I believe that is the official medical terminology anyways…

 

[Bluegoat]

I think that one of the most difficult parts of using NFP vs ABC, is that for ABC you are trusting the technology, something outside of yourself. As long as you follow the directions, you are ok.

With NFP, you have to make judgments. It can be a lot more difficult to trust your own judgement.

 

[manualman]

I think that one of the most difficult parts of using NFP vs ABC, is that for ABC you are trusting the technology, something outside of yourself. As long as you follow the directions, you are ok.

With NFP, you have to make judgments. It can be a lot more difficult to trust your own judgement.

I agree that this is true and assert that this is a sad commentary on the status of freedom and responsibility in the modern world. How did we come to the point where multitudes are willing to trust the judgement of somebody else in regards to their OWN body, someone with a PROFIT motive to push one solution instead of relying upon fairly easily learned methods by which we can make our OWN decisions?

We all need experts to make modern society work. But if we are not careful, the experts will continue pushing the line between what each can do for himself and what he must rely on experts for until everybody is helpless outside a very narrow expertise. The world’s a big place folks, experience it. Learn how fertility works, paint your own house, replace the seal on your dishwasher, change your car’s oil… You will be surprised how many easy things you’ve been conned into turning over to profit hungry experts!