No elevation of Host

[Hammerofheresy]

This past week I couldn’t attend my usual Parish so I had to attened a different one. An ugly new one built in the 70’s(ya know white washed walls no satuary no kneelers etc.) And during the Mass during the Canon the Priest didn’t elevate the Host he just lifted the pie plate (yes pie plate) that the host was on about an inch above the alter.

Uh, isn’t the Host supposed to be elevated?

I have heard of this done by other Priest too. Whats up? I thought the whole point of not elevating the Host was a heretic Protestant thing brought in in the 16th century to help to deny the real presence. Does anyone know what the GIRM says about this?

 

[Chuy]

This past week I couldn’t attend my usual Parish so I had to attened a different one. An ugly new one built in the 70’s(ya know white washed walls no satuary no kneelers etc.) And during the Mass during the Canon the Priest **didn’t elevate the Host **he just lifted the pie plate (yes pie plate) that the host was on about an inch above the alter.

Uh, isn’t the Host supposed to be elevated?

I have heard of this done by other Priest too. Whats up? I thought the whole point of not elevating the Host was a heretic Protestant thing brought in in the 16th century to help to deny the real presence. Does anyone know what the GIRM says about this?

Maybe the forces of the “ugly new one” prevented him from elevating the host?

 

[Hammerofheresy]

Maybe the forces of the “ugly new one” prevented him from elevating the host?

Okay but seriously Isn’t the host to be elevated.

 

[Through_Him]

Here is an article from wiki but it also has a reference for the Catholic encyclopedia instead of citing it each one just refer to it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevation_(liturgy

I think it is a minor elevation. I watch the father on the sunday morning mass of the handicapped and he does not elevate it very much. He doesn’t really wash his hands but only touches the water, and then the towel. I have seen some not wash their hands ither but not in our church. Our priest said that before VII if a mistake in any prayer or thing they did wrong was made the priest had to start over but since they didn’t. sorry it didn’t seem to work
look up in wiki Elevation(liturgy)

 

[Hammerofheresy]

Here is an article from wiki but it also has a reference for the Catholic encyclopedia instead of citing it each one just refer to it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevation_(liturgy

I think it is a minor elevation. I watch the father on the sunday morning mass of the handicapped and he does not elevate it very much. He doesn’t really wash his hands but only touches the water, and then the towel. I have seen some not wash their hands ither but not in our church. Our priest said that before VII if a mistake in any prayer or thing they did wrong was made the priest had to start over but since they didn’t. sorry it didn’t seem to work
look up in wiki Elevation(liturgy)

Aren’t the Elevation and Minor Elevation two seperate things? I thought the Elevation was after the words of institution and the Minor was during the “through him with him etc…”
This is during the Words of institution. “This is my Body” (no elevation)

 

[Through_Him]

hi
In the liturgy of the Roman Rite, the observance of most Roman Catholic churches, the host and chalice are elevated at the end of the Eucharistic Prayer. This elevation was called “minor” because the consecrated elements were not raised so high (since the purpose was not that of showing them to the people for adoration) and, it was not generally seen by the congregation, not being intended for showing to them for adoration. This elevation is considerably more ancient than the post-consecration elevation: it can be traced back at least to the ninth century.

In the offertory of the Tridentine Mass the priest raises the paten and the chalice to eye level, but at the minor elevation he raises the consecrated Host and chalice only a little (aliquantulum). In the Mass of Paul VI, on the contrary, the priest says the prayers at the offertory or preparation of the gifts while holding the paten and chalice a little (aliquantulum) above the altar, but is not told to limit the height at which he holds the consecrated Host and chalice at what was called the minor elevation.[3]

In the present edition of the Roman Missal the word “elevate” is used only of what used to be called the minor elevation.[4]

I copied and pasted it a bit but it isn’t real clear and there is a diff between the traditional and other forms so maybe ask on the traditional forum you may get better response and they know the firm better than I.

 

[Through_Him]

Hi

1. ^ a b c The Elevation article in Catholic Encyclopedia
2. ^ Elevation article in Christian Cyclopedia
3. ^ How Not to Say Mass, by Dennis C. Smolarski, published by Paulist Press, 2003, ISBN 0809141647, p. 76
4. ^ The General Instruction of the Roman Missal, 1969-2002, by Dennis Chester Smolarski, Liturgical Press, 2003, ISBN 0814629369, p. 24, footnote 5

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Categories: Eucharistic devotions | Catholic liturgy | Lutheran liturgy and worship

Here is some more references but it will probably not be blue when pasted.

 

[Through_Him]

Hi
newadvent.org/cathen/05380b.htm
This is from the catholic encyclopedia

I must go sleep it is 3 am here

 

[bpbasilphx]

I thought the whole point of not elevating the Host was a heretic Protestant thing brought in in the 16th century to help to deny the real presence.

**Why did you think that? The whole point of the Elevation as adopted in the Western rites before the Reformation was to be able to SEE the Sacrament, which most people went for months or years at a time without receiving.

The Eastern Liturgies have never had an elevation at the time of the Consecration.**

 

[bkovacs]

Here is an article from wiki but it also has a reference for the Catholic encyclopedia instead of citing it each one just refer to it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevation_(liturgy

I think it is a minor elevation. I watch the father on the sunday morning mass of the handicapped and he does not elevate it very much. He doesn’t really wash his hands but only touches the water, and then the towel. I have seen some not wash their hands ither but not in our church. Our priest said that before VII if a mistake in any prayer or thing they did wrong was made the priest had to start over but since they didn’t. sorry it didn’t seem to work
look up in wiki Elevation(liturgy)

I’d make them start over, or get recurrent training on saying the Mass properly, with reverence and humility.

 

[Claire_from_DE]

This past week I couldn’t attend my usual Parish so I had to attened a different one. An ugly new one built in the 70’s(ya know white washed walls no satuary no kneelers etc.) And during the Mass during the Canon the Priest didn’t elevate the Host he just lifted the pie plate (yes pie plate) that the host was on about an inch above the alter.

** Uh, isn’t the Host supposed to be elevated?

I have heard of this done by other Priest too. Whats up? I thought the whole point of not elevating the Host was a heretic Protestant thing brought in in the 16th century to help to deny the real presence. Does anyone know what the GIRM says about this?**

Are you speaking of the elevation immediately after the consecration?
I think originally the separate elevations of the host and chalice were done at that point in the mass to point out that Christ is completely present under each form.

I imagine that there is no elevation in communion services in those Protestant churches which understand the eucharist as a merely symbolic action.

 

[Phemie]

Claire_from_DE:
Are you speaking of the elevation immediately after the consecration?
I think originally the separate elevations of the host and chalice were done at that point in the mass to point out that Christ is completely present under each form.

I imagine that there is no elevation in communion services in those Protestant churches which understand the eucharist as a merely symbolic action.

After the priest says the words of institution he shows the Host to the people then he genuflects & repeats those actions with the chalice. At the doxology he elevates the paten with the Host & the chalice.