No Funeral for Mom?

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My mother told me that when she dies she doesn’t want any funeral rites. She wants to be cremated and buried. That’s all. My mother is a fallen away Catholic. I’m a serious Catholic. Do I still have a moral obligation in charity to be sure my mother is given the funeral rites of the Church against her wishes? Thanks!
 
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My mother passed away back in 1988. She had made her own arrangements for cremation with a company called the Neptune Society. I got the call she had passed and rushed to get there four hours later. I was in a different state. By the time I got there they had taken her for cremation and her ashes were soon to be taken out to sea to be scattered. She wasn’t Catholic, but this hurt me a great deal. Her friends had a “Celebration of Life,” which was a get together mostly of a theater group she worked with. They drank wine and told stories with a lot of laughing. I broke down. I felt betrayed.
Talk to your priest and get his advice. Funerals are as much for the living as they are for the dead.
 
Talk to your priest. And remember, that even if you somehow end up in a situation like Convert3’s, you can often still have a memorial Mass said for your loved one, sometimes years after the fact.

A couple years ago I saw a senior citizen couple get married at Mass. A few months later I happened to be at church and saw the priest in the adjoining chapel celebrating a memorial Mass for the deceased spouses of the married couple, with big pictures of each spouse, and the couple there with all their adult children from the previous marriages. It was very nice.

You might also tell you mom that you yourself would really like to have a funeral because it would help you grieve in your time of mourning. Perhaps she would do it as a favor to you. But if she’s really adamant about it, don’t push.
 
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Your moral obligation is to follow your mother’s wishes.
If you want to have a Memorial Mass or have a Mass offered for her that is a noble act. But to deny her wishes, to me would be akin to a betrayal.
 
Do you know the reason why she stopped practicing? If not, ask her.

Tell her how you want to be treated before and after death. Yes, you may dead before the sun sets today.

Don’t underestimate how many people are sacred and been led astray.

My wife was having wine with her fallen away sisters when the topic turned to death preparations. She told them she would be anointed, have a mass and buried in the local cemetery. They did their usual public-worker brainwashed mocking… and then, we found out they too were quietly making new preparations.

Do not underestimate your God given power to persuade the lost.
 
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Nah. I don’t know what the OP should do, but not carrying out the wishes of the dead isn’t a betrayal; some wishes are immoral, for instance. There’s only so much we can expect to control after we pass on. That said, I don’t know what the protocol is for lapsed Catholics; it’d feel silly to me to give someone a funeral that didn’t accord with their beliefs, though.
 
Some people want to spare their lovedones costs at the end. Cremation is inexpensive. They do not realize that the loved ones can pick up those ashes and take them to the Parish for a funeral that costs nothing. If you want musicians, either family or the Church will pay them.

Talk to her about the why
 
At this point, the concern is while she is still alive, help her to reconcile! That has to be done with your submission to His Holy Spirit.

I think I would reassure my grandmother that I can honor this request, although I would reassure her that I would be offering my own prayer at the burial.

Maybe you can write the prayer and show her. Or maybe you can pray with her now too?

I’m not sure what the Spirit will guide you in these moments, but trust Him and do what He compels you boldly! You dont want to wish you had said something when she is gone. Open your heart and pray for God to help!

I will pray for you both! Lord have mercy!
 
If your mother wants to be cremated and buried then you should do as she requested. That doesn’t stop you from having a memorial mass for her or having any number of masses said for her.
 
My mum has donated her body to science and they will cover the cost of cremation.

So what I will do is hold a requiem mass for her (the body doesn’t need to be present) and then have her remains buried properly.

It’s a bit upsetting but there’s not much else that can be done.
 
My mother passed away back in 1988. She had made her own arrangements for cremation with a company called the Neptune Society. I got the call she had passed and rushed to get there four hours later. I was in a different state. By the time I got there they had taken her for cremation and her ashes were soon to be taken out to sea to be scattered. She wasn’t Catholic, but this hurt me a great deal. Her friends had a “Celebration of Life,” which was a get together mostly of a theater group she worked with. They drank wine and told stories with a lot of laughing. I broke down. I felt betrayed.
Talk to your priest and get his advice. Funerals are as much for the living as they are for the dead.
I’m so sorry, Convert3! How terrible! A military closed casket left me feeling empty, but what you endured had to be far worse. I’ve come to believe that funerals are essential for helping the living to adjust to the finality of death. We become accustomed to an orderly progression of days from the death to the burial. We feel very jarred, very much at loose ends, as though things are unfinished when some of those steps are skipped, as so often occurs now after cremation, with no funeral, no burial and no marker.

I miss Ann Landers and Miss Manners. Their substitutes today just aren’t the same, mainly because people pooh-pooh standards and insist upon doing whatever they wish. Society hasn’t yet come up with a satisfactory protocol for what happens after cremation, leaving the surviving family members with huge gaps and hurting hearts.

When I was in grade school, many wakes in small towns were in homes. The funeral director would take the casket to the home. A friend or relative of the immediate family stayed with the body throughout each night of the two or three afternoons and evenings of visitation. If the house was large, the funeral would be held at the house or a church, but very rarely the funeral home. If the house was small, the funeral would be conducted at the church. Normally, only funerals of non-church-goers were conducted at the funeral home. Most family homes had an upright piano, so that would be played softly during the visitations, with a soloist, duet, trio, or quartet also at the funeral. Catholics, of course, were buried from the parish Church. Gradually, viewings in funeral homes prevailed. The last home wake that I attended was in 1958.

We’ve gone from that scenario, where mourners had a chance to mourn—to become accustomed to the reality of their loss—to what we see today. Expediting the disappearance of the one we’ve lost seems cut and dried, cold and utilitarian, and detrimental to the healing process.
 
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I just wanted to share. I’m not catholic, but my grandmother was a dedicated catholic, and in her will she requested to have a regular funeral rather than a catholic mass. It upset several catholic members of my family who insisted they go through with a mass. This ended up causing a lot of pain in the family because many were adamant about respecting my grandmother’s wishes.

At the end of the day, the funeral is really for the family and friends of the one whose passed. The deceased person’s soul has entered eternity and all that’s left is their body, and their family grieving the loss of their loved one.
 
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My mother told me that when she dies she doesn’t want any funeral rites. She wants to be cremated and buried. That’s all. My mother is a fallen away Catholic. I’m a serious Catholic. Do I still have a moral obligation in charity to be sure my mother is given the funeral rites of the Church against her wishes? Thanks!
As @Tis_Bearself, @Ammi, and @Retsel have suggested, talk to your mother some more, DetroitGuy. Tell her how much joy you feel in the faith and how much you want to share it with her. Ask her why. Ask if there’s anything at all that you could do to help her come back to the church.

It might be that she thinks she’s done something that confession can’t cure, and she hasn’t any choice. Ask her if she’d be willing to meet with a priest, so he could answer any questions she might have. Offer to be present if she wishes, or to wait for her.

Tell her how much it’s killing you to not be able to share your faith with her and the idea of not having a funeral Mass for her. Discuss cost, as @TheLittleLady suggested, to see if she thinks she’d be saving money. Don’t give up, even if she first holds her ground. Keep your faith and keep praying. She may just need to get used to the idea.
We’re all hoping that you’re able to have the Mass that you want for her. Best wishes to both of you.
 
I’d say do your best to follow your loved one’s wishes. You can have a memorial service/mass later, if you want. My family members mostly ask for cremation, to spare loved ones the expense. Several had funeral home services conducted by catholic priests. So, I imagine the church allows this.

I wouldn’t try to change anyone’s mind, while they’re living. They may see it as morbid, and it may put strain on the relationship. You call them loved ones? Love them while they’re alive. And respect their final wishes!
 
Your moral obligation is to follow your mother’s wishes.
No, you don’t. There is actually absolutely no moral obligation at all to carry out the wishes of the dead. Maybe if it is something you sincerely promise before they die, but generally speaking no.

Even legally, we are not always required to carry out the will of the dead.
 
Would you be fine if you requested a Catholic mass when you die, then some non-Catholic family members go against your wishes because they they know better or think you’re in error?

Respect her wishes just as you would want/expect others to respect yours.
 
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