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[FrDavid96]

I thought it took at least TWO bishops who could consecrate a third.

Two reasons:

That’s done “just in case.” If is later learned that the single ordaining bishop was not himself validly ordained, the new bishop was still ordained by the other two (or at least one). Still though, for validity, only one bishop is needed.

There’s also the historical aspect that in the very early Church, all the local bishops would ordain the new one, as a sign of solidarity and communion. In the rubrics, it’s been reduced to a symbolic three.

 

[drforjc]

No Lutherans have preserved Apostolic Succession.

The Old Catholics are now an open question. There are several different Old Catholic groups, some may have Apostolic Succession, some certainly do not.

There are some Lutherans who **claim **apostolic succession, but I can’t imagine how they could since AFAIK none of them accept holy orders as a sacrament, nor do they intend to ordain a sacrificing priest (since they don’t even claim their liturgy is a sacrifice nor do they accept that Catholic Mass is a sacrifice). So even if they used a valid ordination rite from a bishop who had apostolic succession, I think there is doubt that they intend to do what the Church intends.

One Finlander on another board made the claim that the Lutheran bishops in his country had preserved it. I can’t remember how the discussion ended.

 

[ConstantineTG]

There’s also the historical aspect that in the very early Church, all the local bishops would ordain the new one, as a sign of solidarity and communion. In the rubrics, it’s been reduced to a symbolic three.

I think this was taken from Acts 1 when Mattias was elevated to the 12.