not by faith alone

[Texan_in_DC]

“The idea that the CC teachings that only through works we are save is false. It is only through the grace of God that we are save. It is not by faith alone.” zcharry

I do not want to take your quote of context but I do want to point out this is not a Catholic doctrine.

We are judged by our works not saved.

 

[deb1]

“The idea that the CC teachings that only through works we are save is false. It is only through the grace of God that we are save. It is not by faith alone.” zcharry

I do not want to take your quote of context but I do want to point out this is not a Catholic doctrine.

We are judged by our works not saved.

I can’t remember the exact bible verse but we are saved by grace but we have to have a combination of belief and works in order to continue to have that grace applied to us.

 

[frnate]

I can’t remember the exact bible verse but we are saved by grace but we have to have a combination of belief and works in order to continue to have that grace applied to us.

Eph. 2:8-10
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

You are exactly correct.

Really, when it comes right down to it, Catholics believe we are “saved” (i.e. initial justification) by faith alone. Where we actually part ways with the sola fide/OSAS crowd is that they believe it is possible (tho not likely) to persevere by faith alone where we do not.

Peace,
+N

 

[Fisher]

“The idea that the CC teachings that only through works we are save is false. It is only through the grace of God that we are save. It is not by faith alone.” zcharry

I do not want to take your quote of context but I do want to point out this is not a Catholic doctrine.

We are judged by our works not saved.

“For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.” -Matthew 5:20

Oh that men would seek the truth! The Word of God is abundantly clear concerning salvation; YET, religion has obscured It’s divine Truths into mere tradition and ceremonialism. Jesus warned the people, that if their righteousness did not go beyond the self-righteousness of the Pharisees, that they wouldn’t go to Heaven. The truth is that self-righteousness never saved anybody! We read in **Romans 10:3-4… “For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.” **Clearly, salvation is found only in HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, i.e., the righteousness of Jesus Christ. This is the dividing line between Biblical salvation verses men’s traditions and self-righteousness. Religion teaches self-righteousness in one form or another; BUT, Biblical salvation is found only in HIS righteousness, i.e., Christ’s righteousness.

But BY HIS OWN BLOOD he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us." -Hebrews 9:12

1st John 1:7 states, “…and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.” It is Jesus’ blood that saves us!–NOT one’s church membership, tithing, good deeds, baptism, holy communion, or other forms of self-righteousness. Jesus ascended into Heaven after the crucifixion, with the LITERAL blood that He shed for our sins, and He applied that precious blood to the heavenly Mercy Seat. What a Savior!

Search the world over and you’ll find every sort of religion imaginable, 99% of them based upon WORKS salvation. Someone has said that there are two types of religions in the world: DO and DONE, i.e., either you believe you must DO something to get to Heaven; or else you believe it is DONE, paid for by the blood of Jesus, and our only part is to trust upon the Savior. Someone asked me… "Isn’t believing on Christ a “work.” Yes, but it is not a work of self-righteousness… John 6:29 states, “Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” The only work which can get us to Heaven is believing upon the Lord Jesus Christ, and thus obtaining HIS righteousness… “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him” (2nd Corinthians 5:21). The religious people of this world are trying to save themselves-- foolishly trusting their church, priest, or organization to save them. Apart from faith alone in Jesus Christ, there is NO salvation (Acts 4:10-12).

The world has been blinded by religion, which is why 99% of the people in the world are headed straight for Hellfire! Matthew 7:13-15 plainly states that most people go to Hell, and FEW folks ever find the path to life. Matthew 7:14 reads, “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” Notice the word “find”. To find something, you need to search first. In other words, those who seek the Truth will find it. Tragically, most people couldn’t care less about finding the truth. They are content in their manmade religion.

works are the fruit of salvation.

“Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the** love of the truth**, that they might be saved.” -2nd Thessalonians 2:9,10

2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

2Cr 11:15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; **whose end shall be according to their works. **