Nothing, Something and Time

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We define nothing and something as states of existence without and with a thing. Time is defined as a variable which the evolution of a state of existence is defined in term of it. We obviously need time to move from nothing to something since we are dealing with two state of existence one follows another one. Therefore time is intrinsic aspect of reality and cannot come into existence from nothing.
 
We define nothing and something as states of existence without and with a thing. Time is defined as a variable which the evolution of a state of existence is defined in term of it. We obviously need time to move from nothing to something since we are dealing with two state of existence one follows another one. Therefore time is intrinsic aspect of reality and cannot come into existence from nothing.
Right, so where does it come from, then? How did God get the time to create time? Or has time just always existed?
 
Right, so where does it come from, then?
Time cannot come from something else sine this requires change hence we need time in the first place to have time which is problematic.
How did God get the time to create time?
This leads to infinite regress as you notice. Hence we have to accept that time is underlying of reality.
Or has time just always existed?
It is not correct to say that time has always existed since time itself is a variable which shows when things have existed.
 
And time can’t be created why?

You are the one who has it backwards. Time passes because things change. If things suddenly stopped changing there would be no time.
 
And time can’t be created why?
Think of situation that time does not exist, lets call this state as A. Then God create time and we reach to state B. But we have a ordered sequence here A=>B which means that B happens after A which this is nothing but time. In simple word, you need time to create time which is problematic.
You are the one who has it backwards. Time passes because things change.
Well, then why bother with the concept of time at all? Everything which you have is changes. No need to say that what you suggest is against the most theories in field of physics. Just think of the second law of Newton.
If things suddenly stopped changing there would be no time.
No, there would be no sense of passage of time.
 
Time is the presence of motion - no motion no time.
No, motion is defined in term of relative changes of a quantity respect to time. Think of velocity which is the first derivative of position respect to time, V=dx/dt, where dx is change in position and dt is change in time. Velocity zero means that there is no change in position respect to time yet you still have time. Just think of no motion, velocity is zero, and no time, dt=0 to see that you end up with a contradiction.
 
We define nothing and something as states of existence without and with a thing.
Huh? “Nothing” is non-existence. It is impossible to get something out of nothing, hence the great cosmological question, “why is there something rather than nothing?”
 
It also applies to those in His presence.
We are also in His presence but we are temporal. I don’t know what is the requirement for being in a state which there is no sense of passage of time. Maybe perfect!?
 
We are also in His presence but we are temporal. I don’t know what is the requirement for being in a state which there is no sense of passage of time. Maybe perfect!?
Research the Beatific Vision.

In Christian theology, the beatific vision (Latin: visio beatifica) is the ultimate direct self communication of God to the individual person. A person possessing the beatific vision reaches, as a member of redeemed humanity in the communion of saints, perfect salvation in its entirety, i.e. heaven. The notion of vision stresses the intellectual component of salvation, though it encompasses the whole of human experience of joy, happiness coming from seeing God finally face to face and not imperfectly through faith.
 
We define nothing and something as states of existence without and with a thing. Time is defined as a variable which the evolution of a state of existence is defined in term of it. We obviously need time to move from nothing to something since we are dealing with two state of existence one follows another one. Therefore time is intrinsic aspect of reality and cannot come into existence from nothing.
There can be ordering without time being real.
 
We define nothing and something as states of existence without and with a thing. Time is defined as a variable which the evolution of a state of existence is defined in term of it. We obviously need time to move from nothing to something since we are dealing with two state of existence one follows another one. Therefore time is intrinsic aspect of reality and cannot come into existence from nothing.
Time isn’t a thing.
 
We define nothing and something as states of existence without and with a thing. Time is defined as a variable which the evolution of a state of existence is defined in term of it. We obviously need time to move from nothing to something since we are dealing with two state of existence one follows another one. Therefore time is intrinsic aspect of reality and cannot come into existence from nothing.
Nothing can come into existence from nothing – that is, on it’s own accord.
 
Nothing can come into existence from nothing – that is, on it’s own accord.
On what basis can “nothing” have existence? Seems to me nothing cannot have existence, for if it did it would something rather than nothing.
 
On what basis can “nothing” have existence? Seems to me nothing cannot have existence, for if it did it would something rather than nothing.
You’re playing what Patrick Coffin would call “antics with semantics”. I said nothing, as in no thing, can come into existence from nothing.
 
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