Obama Will Remove Abortion Funding Ban From Health Care Bill

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Washington, DC – Top Obama advisor David Axelrod on Sunday confirmed what pro-life advocates already suspected would happen. He said President Barack Obama will work with congressional Democrats to remove the abortion funding ban the House approved in its version of the government-run health care bill.

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I actually for a moment thought they would leave the abortion ban in there and take the victory of having more government control at the daily level of American lives. I guess that isn’t enough, they want the abortion too.
 
Obama can’t remove the ban from the bill, he has to convince congress to do this. I’d say he has an uphill fight on this one.
 
juliee said:
Washington, DC – Top Obama advisor David Axelrod on Sunday confirmed what pro-life advocates already suspected would happen. He said President Barack Obama will work with congressional Democrats to remove the abortion funding ban the House approved in its version of the government-run health care bill.

LifeNews.com/nat5659.html
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But I thought President Obama wanted to fight and do EVERYTHING in his power to make abortions “rare” in the US? :confused:
 
Catholic1954 said:
But I thought President Obama wanted to fight and do EVERYTHING in his power to make abortions “rare” in the US? :confused:
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AH! loll…

dont know what coulda gave you that idea…this is the same guy that said he would rather kill his grandchildren than ‘punish his daughters with a babies’

scum. oh heres some video before someone even asks:

youtube.com/watch?v=HB5Frgw0Fww
 
crazzeto said:
Obama can’t remove the ban from the bill, he has to convince congress to do this. I’d say he has an uphill fight on this one.
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do you happen to know what numbers were lookin at here? with congress that is?? do we have a chance, or are we going to have to win over many democrats??

or is this gonna be a drop in the bucket to him? if it passes, do we the people have any way means of rebuttle? or is that- it.

And ultimately, if this is - it, after 2012 if we elect someone new, can they reverse any of this?? The reformation of the healthcare system, if they have their way, is gonna be a HUGE overhaul…could there be any going back?
 
Charlotte408 said:
do you happen to know what numbers were lookin at here? with congress that is?? do we have a chance, or are we going to have to win over many democrats??

or is this gonna be a drop in the bucket to him? if it passes, do we the people have any way means of rebuttle? or is that- it.

And ultimately, if this is - it, after 2012 if we elect someone new, can they reverse any of this?? The reformation of the healthcare system, if they have their way, is gonna be a HUGE overhaul…could there be any going back?
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The anti-abortion language was added because health care can not pass the House with out such protections. It’s a pitty the preseident doesn’t understand this. I also find it a pitty that abortion is more important to him than having a public option the least of us could rely on for basic coverage.
 
crazzeto: if you wouldnt mind…

what do they mean by ‘public option’? someone was nice enough to inform me of what exactly we have to look forward to with the healthcare reform:

"This healthcare bill does not force everyone into a government plan – very far from it.

If you have insurance already, you’ll keep it.
If you don’t have insurance, you’ll be required to purchase it.
If you can’t afford insurance, you’ll either be given assistance to buy it or be provided (in some states) with an “option” to buy into a low-cost government plan.
No insurance company will be allowed to reject you for a “pre-existing condition.”

This bill is so far from socialism (and so far from real reform, in my opinion) that it’s a joke to suggest otherwise.

Oh, and it doesn’t go into effect until 2013."

I assumed ‘public option’ meant that if we wanted to purchase insurance, we could do so with a private company- it didnt have to be the ‘government plan’??? btw I have a HUGE problem with the bolded peice. Cant help but ask myself…OR WHAT?
 
crazzeto said:
The anti-abortion language was added because health care can not pass the House with out such protections. QUOTE]

sorry…crazzto…lol im probbaly drivin you crazy…but, why? is it a numbers game, like in the senate??
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Charlotte408 said:
crazzeto: if you wouldnt mind…

what do they mean by ‘public option’? someone was nice enough to inform me of what exactly we have to look forward to with the healthcare reform:

"This healthcare bill does not force everyone into a government plan – very far from it.

If you have insurance already, you’ll keep it.
If you don’t have insurance, you’ll be required to purchase it.
If you can’t afford insurance, you’ll either be given assistance to buy it or be provided (in some states) with an “option” to buy into a low-cost government plan.
No insurance company will be allowed to reject you for a “pre-existing condition.”

This bill is so far from socialism (and so far from real reform, in my opinion) that it’s a joke to suggest otherwise.

Oh, and it doesn’t go into effect until 2013."

I assumed ‘public option’ meant that if we wanted to purchase insurance, we could do so with a private company- it didnt have to be the ‘government plan’??? btw I have a HUGE problem with the bolded peice. Cant help but ask myself…OR WHAT?
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It states in Pelosi’s bill itself that the “or what” could be up to 5 years in prison.

It is a huge step to take control of the insurance industry. It will be next to impossible to compete with the government.

It doesn’t go into effect until then but it starts being paid for right away.
 
dmelosi said:
It states in Pelosi’s bill itself that the or what could be up to 5 years in prison.
It is a huge step to take control of the insurance industry. It will be next to impossible to compete with the government.

It doesn’t go into effect until then but it starts being paid for right away.
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THANK YOU.

So, under this ‘reform’, if I dont purchase health insurance from the government- I could face up to 5 yrs in prison.

Now heres the kicker. I’m poverty level low income. Sometimes I barely make rent and utilities. There is often the month, where I just stay at home with my kid, take her to the park, because I LITERALLY have NO money. Not a dollar. But theres food in my fridge and my daughter and I are very happy and content.

I dont wear make up every day. Dont get my hair/nails done. In fact I cut my own hair…

I’m often FLAT BROKE- to the uptmost meaning of the term. IF I cant come up with money to buy freakn health insurance (which I havent had and been fine without for the past 5 years) I have to worry about going to PRISON??? this guy said it right…
grovertheplover said:
A change of this magnitude and one that mandates a person to buy into a program that may not be necessary (a 25 year old in good shape and a good job without insurance has a very compelling reason to not buy health insurance - right or wrong) is arguable as a government mandate. When a mandate is placed on the shoulders of the taxpayer, there has to be a specific expectation that is met. What is the specific goal of the Health Bill?
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Charlotte408 said:
do you happen to know what numbers were lookin at here? with congress that is?? do we have a chance, or are we going to have to win over many democrats??

or is this gonna be a drop in the bucket to him? if it passes, do we the people have any way means of rebuttle? or is that- it.

And ultimately, if this is - it, after 2012 if we elect someone new, can they reverse any of this?? The reformation of the healthcare system, if they have their way, is gonna be a HUGE overhaul…could there be any going back?
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Specifically, no but I do know the numbers are too close to pass with out pro-life additions to the legistation. This is why Pelosi, despite not wanting these modifications allowed the vote. Her arm was twisted, with out this vote she knew there would be no health care bill. Her public line, is that health care is more important, so she allowed the vote believing there were probably more pro-choice than pro-life votes in the House. She was wrong, the amendments passed in spades!

What it comes down to is while the President, and Nancy Pelosi are trying to draw the line in the sand over abortion. The American People don’t want it, and neither do the majority of people in Congress. We feel more passionately about abortion than we do the public option (well, certainly speaking for me there. Then again the PO has never scared me).

The President may want this, but it’s apparent the votes aren’t there right now. We just have to keep up the pressure.
 
crazzeto said:
The anti-abortion language was added because health care can not pass the House with out such protections. It’s a pitty the preseident doesn’t understand this. I also find it a pitty that abortion is more important to him than having a public option the least of us could rely on for basic coverage.
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Sorry to bring you back to this Crazzeto…but…gettin kinda nervous over here…some house just voted for a second time on this…is this the house you were talking about??
 
juliee said:
Washington, DC – Top Obama advisor David Axelrod on Sunday confirmed what pro-life advocates already suspected would happen. He said President Barack Obama will work with congressional Democrats to remove the abortion funding ban the House approved in its version of the government-run health care bill.

LifeNews.com/nat5659.html
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A good time to give thanks for the fact that the president doesn’t have line-item veto powers, yes?

And next time a conservative Republican president asks for the line-item veto, maybe conservatives will remember this. But I’m not holding my breath.

Edwin
 
Well, so Obama lied…again. I’m surprised :rolleyes:

The millions of people that this communistic, demonically possessed, Satanic, disgusting, lying scumbag is responsible for murdering will have their say at the Last Judgment. This puppet, hiding behind his power and authority right now, will snuggle himself into a ball like a child when before Almighty God at his judgment and the general judgment.
 
iluvburpees said:
Well, so Obama lied…again. I’m surprised :rolleyes:

The millions of people that this communistic, demonically possessed, Satanic, disgusting, lying scumbag is responsible for murdering will have their say at the Last Judgment. This puppet, hiding behind his power and authority right now, will snuggle himself into a ball like a child when before Almighty God at his judgment and the general judgment.
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Do you have any stones left??
May the grace and peace of God be with you!
 
juliee said:
Washington, DC – Top Obama advisor David Axelrod on Sunday confirmed what pro-life advocates already suspected would happen. He said President Barack Obama will work with congressional Democrats to remove the abortion funding ban the House approved in its version of the government-run health care bill.

LifeNews.com/nat5659.html
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There’s a big… no, HUGE difference that one word makes. The subject line says that Obama WILL remove funding, suggesting that it is a fait accompli. The article text says that Obama WILL WORK with the House to achieve this. Huge difference. He doesn’t control them like a puppeteer and has already been trumped many times by them.

Further, when people say that the legislation will do THIS, the legislation will do THAT… please remember. The final legislation has NOT been written yet. It will go to a conference commitee, which will rewrite the entire bill. They can add or delete anything they choose. When they are done, the rewritten bill goes back to the Senate and House for a last vote.

I repeat, the final bill has not been written yet…
 
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