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[floresco]

Why do you need to see ill-will and insults when they aren’t there?

You’ve also done that twice today.

First with Ohana’s post and now in my last post.

True Light is usually one of the reasonable ones. I’m going with a bad day theory.

 

[TrueLight]

Why do you need to see ill-will and insults when they aren’t there?

Your frustration comes across strongly. I’m only reading words on a screen, so maybe you don’t mean to come across that way at all.

 

[wasserfall]

It seems to me that most traditional Catholics want mostly just to be left alone.
Back in the 70s, Archbishop Lefebvre pleaded: Just let us try the experiment of tradition.

One can imagine an expansion of that plea: Just let us form and ordain our seminarians in the traditional way. Just let us celebrate mass and the sacraments in the traditional way. Just let us teach the traditional doctrine of the Church.

But the answer was always: No! You must conform. You must close your seminary. You must celebrate the new mass. You must throw away your old-fashioned catechisms. The Church has changed.

If traditional Catholics could just be permitted to be Catholics in good standing and to practice the faith the same way their ancestors did, then they would have what they want, as far as I can tell.

 

[TrueLight]

True Light is usually one of the reasonable ones. I’m going with a bad day theory.

Maybe I am having a bad day due to the posts on the other threads. In any case, I’m going to have to wipe the slate clean and start again. I can’t go to bed that way!

 

[floresco]

Maybe I am having a bad day due to the posts on the other threads. In any case, I’m going to have to wipe the slate clean and start again. I can’t go to bed that way!

It has been a rough day on the forum. Peace.

 

[Armyvet007]

Your frustration comes across strongly. I’m only reading words on a screen, so maybe you don’t mean to come across that way at all.

I am frustrated, but my frustration is from what I assume is a lot of miscommunication and hurt feelings on both sides getting in the way of us actually understanding each other. I’m also frustrated because I really don’t like this friction/conflict between us [trads and non-trads] because it gets in the way of us learning from each other and from that, learning how to be better Catholics. And finally, I’m frustrated because prior to the **** I went through in Iraq I was a rather good communicator but now I have problems not pissing people off because I can’t get a handle on my emotions when discussing stuff dear to my heart [and you can’t find something much dearer to my heart then the Church].

I don’t mean to belittle or insult traditionalists, or for that matter anyone. It apparently just comes across that way. I’m doing my best to fix it. That’s one of the reasons a lot of my posts are so wordy, have words that basically mean the same thing grouped together [see friction/conflict], and are full of me trying to explain what I mean [see [see…] for an example].

All I’ve been trying to get across this afternoon and tonight is-
-Ohana wasn’t trying to be dishonest or a jerk
-There are non-trad jerks that pick on trads
-There are trad jerks that pick on/vent/are hostile to non-trads
-Both groups of jerks cause problems for all the non-jerks in both groups
-Both groups of non-jerks need to correct/police the jerks
-They need to do so in a manner that won’t alienate non-jerks
-Trad non-jerks need to “grow a thicker skin” and figure out if non-trads posting questions/comments are jerks or non-jerks before responding
-And now that I know there was an issue in the past, non-trad non-jerks [like me] need to be careful of how we post questions/comments because of the “bad blood” created by the non-trad jerks in the past

As to the “as defined/approved by the Church” in my other post, that wasn’t me slighting trads. That was me, who is still mostly uneducated on traditionalism and even less so on the where the SSPX falls in regards to traditionalism, trying to take what I assumed was a safe way of defining traditionalism [if the Church says it’s ok, then it’s ok regardless if I completely understand it or not]. “When in doubt do what the Platoon Sergeant is doing” [When in doubt, trust what the Church says].

 

[Thomas_Casey]

Choosing Your Forum Wisely

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Allow me to clarify something for everyone. The name of the forum is Traditional Catholicism, not Traditionalist Catholicism.

Anything that is part of Catholic tradition is part of this forum, UNLESS THERE IS A DESIGNATED FORUM. If so, please post there.

Second, this forum is not a soap box for Traditionalists to promote Traditionalism, nor is it a closed club house for the same.

However, it is not the school playground, where the majority (non-traditionalist) can bully the minority (traditionalist)

This is a forum for adults who can be reasonable, can disagree without being disagreeable, who are faithful to the Catholic Church and who refrain from passing judgment on each other and those who are not here.

It should also be a safe haven for those who can let their hair down and have little fun with our own traditions.

Again, it’s not the soap box for Traditionalists nor the school playground to bully the Traditionalist, because he’s the underdog.

Do I need to say more to be clearer?