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Gottle_of_Geer
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Well the OP has been answered and now we’re riffing, this happens all the time, don;t be alarmed.
We all seem to be getting along nicely, anyway.
To recap:
There really isn’t any direct correspondence between Old Testament ceremonial worship and the higher expressions of Christian liturgy and synaqoque worship was much more like low liturgy Protestant worship anyway.
Some suggested a balance was necessary and that the current order of the mass reflects this balance.
I think there is a tendency to look for correspondences where there really aren’t any beyond a sort of likeness in kind. Second Temple worship was ordered and “liturgical” but it doesn’t bear much organic resemblance to the more ordered varieties of Christian worship.
Insistence that the mass is a sacrifice as the central point of contact seems to be a case of wishful thinking IMO, but leaving that, the basic assumption that there even SHOULD be a correspondence between Christian and Jewish worship (whether temple or synagogue) seems to be unfounded, or, at least unsubstantiated in this thread. And if it is not unfounded, substantiation ought to include some idea of the degree to which the correspondence relates.
From here we got into a discussion of what liturgy is since the OP is, basically, about liturgy.
There are several issues here:
- Are there similarities ?
- Did they matter in the past ?
- Do they matter now ?
- Should they matter ?
- Is it not possible that there are real similarities, but that in Christianity they are interiorised, instead of being external ?
- Should there be externals as well as internals ?