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stewstew03
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This is rather sophomoric reasoning.
You’re assuming that a Creator cannot have perfect knowledge of the thing He has created unless He becomes the thing He has created.
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You’re assuming that a Creator cannot have perfect knowledge of the thing He has created unless He becomes the thing He has created.
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Sacred_Heart_1
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Yes my being consists of all that I am; and if I am then I exist; and that existence is also part of my being. That existence is me experiencing me. God cannot experience me. And since he can’t he lacks knowledge of that experience; therefore, he is not Omniscient since he lacks certain knowledge.I’m Jewish. If G-d were you, that would mean He is fallible and prone to committing sin, which in turn means He is limited and imperfect. Your entire being is NOT understanding or knowledge; it consists also of emotions, drives, and behaviors. You are created in G-d’s image, in that you have the free will and capacity to choose the right course according to the conscience and goodness G-d has given you. But this doesn’t equate to being G-d.
The only way you can say that God attains that knowledge is by saying that God is inside of me. But if he is inside of me then he is me and I am he. But as a deficient human being you would never admit that the Truth can manifest itself within the human being, becoming that human being.
The Truth being God himself, made man. You see you don’t think anyone can understand the truth and become the truth. The body is the Truth. You don’t want to believe that–that what exists in one body exists in another–that what exists in God exists in man. I am who is.
It’s all the same body if we’re in Christ. It’s all the same body because it is all the same knowledge and it is all the same knowledge because it is one Truth and the Truth is God. The Truth in one body is the same as the Truth in any other body, whatever its image.
God can know the body but he cannot be me unless I am he.
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Sacred_Heart_1
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Yea but he cannot be me; so how could he be knowledgeable about something he can’t be? The difference is is perception. If you look at something from one perspective you get a perception of that something. How could God possibly experience my own existence? Don’t you think that is a shift in perception from not-being to becoming? The experience, the perception of that experience, everything related soley to my existence cannot be “lived” by any other being. I don’t care how supernatural they are. It cannot be done. Therefore God lacks a piece of knowledge. Look. If God became me then he would cease to exist. Any being experiencing me would be an exact copy of myself; otherwise how would that being have the precise experience as me?If God is the creator of us from nothing, then he must also be the sustainer of us, that is, he keeps us from falling back into nothingness, else why would we still be here?
We are made of many parts. If he sustains us in existence, then he must sustain all parts that there is in us, including hair, of which Jesus said God knows even how many hairs we have. How many of us know that, including the ones we lost?
Therefore he knows everything, including freedom which is a power and a part of us he sustains in us as well. And if he did not, we would not have it.
If he sustains everything about us and in us, then he must know us completely, all parts, including freedom.
Just a thought.
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504Katrin
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This is how I understand that G0d created us in his image…Yes my being consists of all that I am; and if I am then I exist; and that existence is also part of my being. That existence is me experiencing me. God cannot experience me. And since he can’t he lacks knowledge of that experience; therefore, he is not Omniscient since he lacks certain knowledge.
The only way you can say that God attains that knowledge is by saying that God is inside of me. But if he is inside of me then he is me and I am he. But as a deficient human being you would never admit that the Truth can manifest itself within the human being, becoming that human being.
The Truth being God himself, made man. You see you don’t think anyone can understand the truth and become the truth. The body is the Truth. You don’t want to believe that–that what exists in one body exists in another–that what exists in God exists in man. I am who is.
It’s all the same body if we’re in Christ. It’s all the same body because it is all the same knowledge and it is all the same knowledge because it is one Truth and the Truth is God. The Truth in one body is the same as the Truth in any other body, whatever its image.
God can know the body but he cannot be me unless I am he.
When we’re born we’re born with a soul that comes from G0d and that will go back to G0d one day. G0d lives inside of us. When you say that “That existence is me experiencing me.” then it’s our task to experience him more and more instead of experiencing ourselves. We can reach this goal by surrendering ourselves to G0d. Once we totally surrender our human selves to G0d, it will only be our g0dly soul anymore that will live inside of us.
G0d is our creator. He knows everything you do, have done and will do. He gives us free will and choices, but this doesn’t mean that he didn’t know the outcome before we make these choices. This is not my own understanding, but to see all over the bible:
G0d knew that the Pharao wouldn’t let the people go, yet he gave him chances, ten to be exact.
G0d knew that the widow would give her last bread to Elijah, (“Then the word of the LORD came to him: ‘Go at once to Zarephath of Sidon and stay there. I have commanded a widow in that place to supply you with food.’…”) but it was still her choice to either let him in or send him away. There’re many other examples. He must have also known that Moses wouldn’t speak to the rock.
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