On God's Existence

[Almost-there]

Can you think of a purpose for God’s existence if He did not create? Is God’s purpose for existence contingent upon Him creating?
If there were no creation, no universe, no galaxies and no Man would there be a need for a solitary God existing? If so then to what purpose?

 

[ontheway1]

No. God’s existence is not contingent on you and me.

 

[PRmerger]

Is God’s existence contingent upon His creation.
If there were no creation, no universe, no galaxies and no Man would there be a need for a solitary God existing in dark vacuum? If so then to what purpose?

God is necessary, not contingent.

If God were contingent, we would need an explanation for God’s existence…and that explanation would be God.

 

[CapitalistCatholic]

A vacuum itself is a creation, but that’s beside the point. God is separate from his creation, and therefore his existence is not subject to any outside force. That is why we say God is without change, since change requires the ability to be influenced by outside forces.

 

[KevinK]

That is why we say God is without change, since change requires the ability to be influenced by outside forces.

Is that not what prayer is?

 

[Wesrock]

CapitalistCatholic:

That is why we say God is without change, since change requires the ability to be influenced by outside forces.

Is that not what prayer is?

God isn’t changed by prayer. God has accounted for all prayers as he wills from all eternity. As in, he always knows all the prayers at all times, and so accounts for them in his one act of creation. It might help to think of it as the Jesuit’s do. A modern analogy to the Jesuit model would be to imagine that you could run infinite possible world simulations on a computer, then choose the one you want to exist. For God, he just knows all these innately and eternally wills the one reality he brings into being.

 

[CapitalistCatholic]

No, that is not what prayer is. God isn’t a lowly pagan “god”.