Online mass during coronavirus breakout?

[Meowwwwww]

There are a lot of coronavirus outbreaks in places of worship in Korea, Singapore and Hong Kong. It is spreading very fast.

Are we going to have online mass?

 

[OddBird]

Each country’s situation is different, with different challenges, and I don’t think there is a “one size fits all” answer in the present context. Just follow your government’s/diocese’s guidelines.

Bishops who see fit to lift the Sunday obligation in particularly sensitive places are already doing so, and I guess people there choose whatever alternative best fills their spiritual needs from home.

 

[OurLadyofSorrows]

Italy has lockdown in several cities and ban on public gatherings including Mass. We are in the good hands of our Bishops on this count.

 

[1ke]

Are we going to have online mass?

We already have online and televised masses.

I don’t think you are asking the right question.
When mass must be canceled due to something like this, the obligation either ceases, is dispensed, or is commuted.

Watching mass on TV or the internet is a great spiritual practice. It does not and cannot fulfill the mass obligation.

 

[7_Sorrows]

During flu season we are not having the chalice, but only the Host during Eucharistic liturgy and requesting
parishoners receive in the hand.

 

[Mary888]

It is now spreading in Italy. I read the bars are being closed. I haven’t read anything about churches being closed. As a matter of fact I don’t know if church attendance is high or not in Italy these days, especially in the North. The South is more religious afaik, but in Rome, outside the Vatican, I don’t know how many people go to church on a regular basis…

 

[OurLadyofSorrows]

The areas affected in the north of Italy around Milan and Lombardy have towns in lockdown, restrictions on public gatherings, restrictions on Masses that are in response to the Italian health authorities, and the Venice festival is closed down.

 

[7_Sorrows]

Let’s see if any cases show up after Mardi Gras or even the huge gathering in Los Angeles yesterday.

I am trying to avoid large crowds although yesterday we celebrated my grandaughter’s birthday at a kid’s party place and a large group of people sat at a table behind us who made me a little uncomfortable. I don’t like to seem paranoid, but I can’t help it.

 

[OurLadyofSorrows]

I get you 7 sorrows, I am supposed to be spending some time with religious from northern Italy this week.

 

[7_Sorrows]

I will pray for you @OurLadyofSorrows

 

[Mary888]

Praying for @OurLadyofSorrows and everyone affected or fearing to be affected by this virus and its mutations.

 

[savedbychrist]

Bishops who see fit to lift the Sunday obligation in particularly sensitive places are already doing so, and I guess people there choose whatever alternative best fills their spiritual needs from home.

It’s not just lifting Sunday obligation or not. It’s a complete ban of public Mass. The former gives the faithful autonomy based on their own situation (e.g. sufficiency of surgical masks), the latter deprives the faithful’s right to attend Mass. It is simply revived clericalism, where Bishops abuse the power of their office to do whatever they like (and within their power) and deprive the faithful’s rights to meet the Lord.

 

[OddBird]

It is simply revived clericalism, where Bishops abuse the power of their office to do whatever they like (and within their power) and deprive the faithful’s rights to meet the Lord.

When you see how the situation is developing in Korea, where one single attendee in a religious service is wreaking havoc on a whole country, I find cancelling public Masses quite reasonable in some contexts.

Sometimes, like in northern Italy, church closures are part of government-ordered quarantine measures. It has nothing to do with clericalism.

sufficiency of surgical masks

Masks are useful in helping to prevent infected people from spreading the virus, but they don’t protect. Air-borne saliva droplets coming into contact with the eyes can infect a person.

People can contaminate others without showing any symptoms, thus not necessarily feeling the need to wear a mask.

 

[OKComputer]

You really don’t need to worry about the Coronavirus.The Flu is far more deadly. It’s not even close, actually.

 

[peter26]

If you want a good online Mass, try this one., a church about 50 miles from me who livestream all their services.

 

[savedbychrist]

When you see how the situation is developing in Korea, where one single attendee in a religious service is wreaking havoc on a whole country, I find cancelling public Masses quite reasonable in some contexts.

I myself am an Asian, I believe I’m not too ignorant of the situation, when the epidemic is happening right in my hometown. I live in Hong Kong, a city with 85 confirmed cases out of the 7.5 million population. 18 of them have recovered, and 2 have died. The remaining 65 patients takes up 0.00087% of our population.

And guess what? Our Apostolic Administrator banned all public Mass and religious gatherings indefinitely. You read that right, a Roman Catholic Cardinal banned all public Mass. Indefinitely.

If any lay person is in paranoid, feel free to skip Mass. If any priest is in paranoid, feel free to stop saying public Mass. If the Apostolic Administrator himself is in paranoid, feel free to stop making public appearances. But instead, he chose to prohibit everyone from attending Mass. Now the 610 thousand Catholics under his episcopacy are striped from every single public Mass we used to have.

I absolutely respect his episcopacy and the rights that come under his office. I must confess that what he has mandated was completely licit and binding to all of us. Nevertheless, that does not make it any less tyrannical, at least to me.

 

[OddBird]

We’ll have to agree to disagree, then.

I see this as charity and concern for the public’s wellbeing, but I guess you differ. That’s fine.

 

[Bluebright]

I see your point that it does seem harsh and very sad. But one must be obedient to your superiors even if you don’t like what they tell you and do so without grumbling in humility. Try to offer it up to God as a great pain and unite it to his suffering. Perhaps meditation on the agony in the garden might help.
I do greatly empathise with you though. I don’t want that to happen here though know it might. Do remember spiritual communion. Pray and sacrifice. We here who can still go to mass will go extra for you and offer them for those in your country. God bless

 

[John_Martin]

You really don’t need to worry about the Coronavirus.The Flu is far more deadly. It’s not even close, actually.

I don’t know where you get your figures; only one house in the US that says we don’t need to worry because “it will all go away in April with the warm weather”, is claimed from that house:
Coronavirus is actually twenty times more deadly than the flu - we just have not had that many people yet catch the virus to overtake those dying from flu, and we have no vaccine nor medicine to treat coronavirus as we do for flu.

1. How dangerous is the coronavirus?​

Though the coronavirus is “definitely” more contagious than the flu, it’s important to remember that it usually isn’t fatal, said Azar. “For flu, it’s about 0.1% mortality. For coronavirus, it’s about 2%. SARS was 10%,” she explained.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/he...e-coronavirus-answered/ar-BB10qk71?li=BBnb7Kz

2 people out of 100 who have the virus will die.
1 person of 1000 will die from the flu.

 

[savedbychrist]

But one must be obedient to your superiors even if you don’t like what they tell you and do so without grumbling in humility.

The virtue of obedience has been a struggle for me in this Diocese. I don’t feel how the pastors here care about the faithful’s spiritual well-being and knowledge in the Catholic theology and traditions. They’ve also done much borderline illicit and fully illicit stuff. I just feel abandoned and angry quite often.

Nevertheless, I understand that if any offence is committed in the Church, the direct recipient of such would be God Himself. If He decided to withhold His anger out of mercy, I have no right not to follow suit.