Opinion - Dead Parents - Living Children

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I heard a story from a older woman - an alcoholic -
She had a dream - that her dead mother came to her in a dream -
The dead mother looked glorious - but she was very displeased -
and said " You drink again, you wont ever see me again " -
She awoke, was in a hospital, because of her drinking, hooked up to wires, etc.

I was in a crowd of about 50 - when she related this story. Happened years ago.

Do you think that dead parents - still - have a certain moral responsibility for their kids - even after death ?
 
I wish they did, but I do not feel that they care now that they are gone.
 
The story you related, even if true, doesn’t indicate any moral responsibility. Perhaps it was a warning or just the conscience of the person.

A deceased parent (or other) is not morally bound to the actions of a child.
 
Heaven is a carefree place so I don’t think so My mother died with cancer so I believe she did her penance and suffered enough to be able to go to heaven I don’t believe she’s sad looking down disappointed I once had a dream that I got a call and someone told me that my mum was alive in a convent and I went there and a I asked a nun where my mother was and she led me to this room when I enters my mum was in chains and I looked out the window and there was fire everywhere and I turned around and the nun had goats feet dreams mean nothing tho because my mum was a good pious woman I don’t think she worries about me as I thankfully didn’t miss out on having a mother because my mums sister raised me as her own and I’ve been calling her mum since I was 8 years old
 
The human mind is an amazing thing. We have vivid dreams!
 
Well, Scripture tells us that every tear will be wiped away.
 
Well, I understand we will be perfectly happy, I do not know if that equates to being carefree. I strongly suspect it does not.
 
I mean, we assume the saints still care what happens to us, otherwise it would be pointless to ask them to pray for us.

The story sounds a little too much like a lifetime movie for me, but i don’t think there’s any theological problems with it necessarily.
 
When in Heaven - can a person be so overcome by their surroundings -
that they totally forget their very children - in their soul’s memory -
an interesting thought though…
 
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My deceased uncle had a similar dream. My deceased grandparents visited him. My grandfather was sad and silent but my grandmother pleaded with my uncle to stop drinking.

He never recovered. About 6 months later he died due to complications of alcoholism.
 
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We pray for the Holy Souls and I think they are aware of this. I seem to remember St Pio saying how he was approached by an elderly monk in spirit form who asked him to give mass for his release from purgatory, st Pio agreed but said that he’d do it the next day whereupon the tortured soul yelled “unkind!” I think.

If someone in purgatory is aware of our prayers then perhaps people apart from saints are also aware?
 
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Do you think that dead parents - still - have a certain moral responsibility for their kids - even after death ?
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I don’t know. Two things come to mind for this situation:
  1. The story of the rich man and Lazarus. Lazarus wanted the chance to go back and warn his siblings, but was told that the siblings already had Moses and the prophets.
  2. Many times we have dreams about things that we are dealing with when we are awake, so it is possible that deep down her subconscious is trying to warn her to stop drinking and that she may indeed be worried about her drinking.
 
It could have been a vision.
It could have been a dream made up of bits of her subconscious.
It doesn’t actually matter.
If it turned her life around and she’s helping others, then I’m completely comfortable calling it the working of the Holy Spirit and praise God.
 
There’s a long story - about a nun who died.
The covenant didn’t think much afterwards - ect
well - she came back to another nun - a friend of hers -
saying she was burning up in fire for her sins -
for proof - she hit a door with her hand - the mark burned into the wood.
In fact, I think she said - " the proof of the mercy of God " !
All the nuns in the covenant - prayed non-stop for her soul…
and she was freed- from purgatory.

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Who hits a door and leaves a perfect handprint like that?

Seems like pious fraud instead of a true recounting to me.
 
Fr. Shouppe relates the true occurrence of Teresa Gesta,
a Franciscan Nun in Foligno, Italy,
who had for many years been a mistress of novices,
a model of piety and charity, who died suddenly on November 4, 1859.
Just twelve days later her soul appeared to Sister Anna Felicia in the sacristy of Convent.
Sister Felicia described it:

“Then the room was filled with a thick smoke, and the spirit of Sister Teresa appeared,
moving towards the door and gliding along by the wall.
Having reached the door, she cried aloud, ‘Behold a proof of the mercy of God.’

“Saying these words, she struck the upper panel of the door
and there left the print of her right hand,
burnt in the wood as with a red-hot iron.
She, then, disappeared.” (ibid, p. 55)

Because of this apparition, Teresa Gesta’s body was exhumed
to check the hand of the deceased, unusual for its very small size,
it fitted perfectly into the impressed hand print.
This occurrence is well documented.
If you pay a visit to that Convent today, you would find
that very handprint on the upper panel of the door of the Chapel.

As Fr. Schouppe observed, “In giving us a warning of this kind,
God shows us a great mercy. He urges us, in the most efficacious manner,
to assist the poor suffering souls, and to be vigilant in our regard.” (ibid, p.57)
 
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Do you think that dead parents - still - have a certain moral responsibility for their kids - even after death ?
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I don’t think so, not in the sense meant here. I think they are still very much interested in the life of the ones left behind but know they are not to interfere.
 
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