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Does anyone have any links to some traditional organ pieces or gregorian chant/polyphony pieces accompanied by organ?

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Jon
 
I don’t get music online, so I have no links. I just want to say I love chant and organ music too! It’s great to see someone else.
 
Caesar, I’ve not found a comprehensive website which would give you this music. There is a plethora of CDs out there which encompass organ music and polyphony. You need to look at the musical era. My suggestion would be to go to Amazon.com and in the CD section type in “early music”

amazon.com/Music-Crusades-Geoffrey-Shaw/dp/B0000041XJ/sr=1-4/qid=1168397017/ref=sr_1_4/104-3174962-7394341?ie=UTF8&s=music

Listen to cut #2 - Pax in Nomine Domini. Plainsong and portativ organ.

We have well over a thousand years of traditional organ and chant/plainsong.

Go! Explore!
 
brotherhrolf said:
Caesar, I’ve not found a comprehensive website which would give you this music. There is a plethora of CDs out there which encompass organ music and polyphony. You need to look at the musical era. My suggestion would be to go to Amazon.com and in the CD section type in “early music”

amazon.com/Music-Crusades-Geoffrey-Shaw/dp/B0000041XJ/sr=1-4/qid=1168397017/ref=sr_1_4/104-3174962-7394341?ie=UTF8&s=music

Listen to cut #2 - Pax in Nomine Domini. Plainsong and portativ organ.

We have well over a thousand years of traditional organ and chant/plainsong.

Go! Explore!
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Wow, those tracts are amazing. Except for a basic knowledge of Gregorian ChantI am quite new to such music.

Thank you
 
Gives you a new appreciation of sacred polyphony doesn’t it?
Unfortunately, most of my absolute favorite CDs are no longer recorded. I have them not only on CD but LP record (and, yes, my turntable still works).

I was fortunate enought to be a member of a cathedral choir where we did get to sing a lot of early music. We even sang a complete medieval Christmas concert with the LSU Collegium Musicum (LSU’s early music group). We processed to Personent Hodie - unfortunately I have not been able to find a cut with medieval instruments rather than organ but this will give you the general idea.

amazon.com/Naxos-Book-Carols/dp/B0000EI9W9/sr=1-13/qid=1168399473/ref=sr_1_13/104-3174962-7394341?ie=UTF8&s=music

Track 19
 
brotherhrolf said:
Gives you a new appreciation of sacred polyphony doesn’t it?
Unfortunately, most of my absolute favorite CDs are no longer recorded. I have them not only on CD but LP record (and, yes, my turntable still works).

I was fortunate enought to be a member of a cathedral choir where we did get to sing a lot of early music. We even sang a complete medieval Christmas concert with the LSU Collegium Musicum (LSU’s early music group). We processed to Personent Hodie - unfortunately I have not been able to find a cut with medieval instruments rather than organ but this will give you the general idea.

amazon.com/Naxos-Book-Carols/dp/B0000EI9W9/sr=1-13/qid=1168399473/ref=sr_1_13/104-3174962-7394341?ie=UTF8&s=music

Track 19
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It is really interesting how Liturgical music evolved over the centuries yet retained many elements.

You are very lucky to go to a parish that has that kind of appreciation for traditional music.
 
Oh, yeah. And there are still composers who are writing decent sacred polyphony - John Rutter for one…instead of the “Muppet Music” of Haugen, Haas,etc.

Keep this image in your head - if you can visualize Kermit, Miss Piggy, and the rest of the Muppets singing it - it’s not sacred polyphony. (Brother Hrolf hereby acknowledges that he is bad 😃 )
 
brotherhrolf said:
Oh, yeah. And there are still composers who are writing decent sacred polyphony - John Rutter for one…instead of the “Muppet Music” of Haugen, Haas,etc.

Keep this image in your head - if you can visualize Kermit, Miss Piggy, and the rest of the Muppets singing it - it’s not sacred polyphony. (Brother Hrolf hereby acknowledges that he is bad 😃 )
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:rotfl: Indeed!
 
brotherhrolf said:
Oh, yeah. And there are still composers who are writing decent sacred polyphony - John Rutter for one…instead of the “Muppet Music” of Haugen, Haas,etc.

Keep this image in your head - if you can visualize Kermit, Miss Piggy, and the rest of the Muppets singing it - it’s not sacred polyphony. (Brother Hrolf hereby acknowledges that he is bad 😃 )
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John Rutter went through a Muppet Music period himself. Think “For the Beauty of the Earth,” or “All Things Bright and Beautiful.” For awhile, everything sounded like a Coke commercial, with what I called “The Dreaded Doodle-Loo Figure” appearing every other measure in the accompaniment.

His early stuff, Christmas carol arrangements (not the original ones like “Shepherd’s Pipe”) were lovely, and the more recent stuff, like the Requiem and “What Sweeter Music” are pretty nice as well.

And through it all, he’s a fantastic choral conductor. Have you heard his Cambridge Singers?

Betsy
 
brotherhrolf said:
Caesar, I’ve not found a comprehensive website which would give you this music. There is a plethora of CDs out there which encompass organ music and polyphony. You need to look at the musical era. My suggestion would be to go to Amazon.com and in the CD section type in “early music”

amazon.com/Music-Crusades-Geoffrey-Shaw/dp/B0000041XJ/sr=1-4/qid=1168397017/ref=sr_1_4/104-3174962-7394341?ie=UTF8&s=music

Listen to cut #2 - Pax in Nomine Domini. Plainsong and portativ organ.

We have well over a thousand years of traditional organ and chant/plainsong.

Go! Explore!
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Awesome! 👍
Caesar said:
You are very lucky to go to a parish that has that kind of appreciation for traditional music.
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:amen:
brotherhrolf said:
Oh, yeah. And there are still composers who are writing decent sacred polyphony - John Rutter for one…instead of the “Muppet Music” of Haugen, Haas,etc.

Keep this image in your head - if you can visualize Kermit, Miss Piggy, and the rest of the Muppets singing it - it’s not sacred polyphony. (Brother Hrolf hereby acknowledges that he is bad 😃 )
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:rotfl: 😃
 
baltobetsy said:
John Rutter went through a Muppet Music period himself. Think “For the Beauty of the Earth,” or “All Things Bright and Beautiful.” For awhile, everything sounded like a Coke commercial, with what I called “The Dreaded Doodle-Loo Figure” appearing every other measure in the accompaniment.

His early stuff, Christmas carol arrangements (not the original ones like “Shepherd’s Pipe”) were lovely, and the more recent stuff, like the Requiem and “What Sweeter Music” are pretty nice as well.

And through it all, he’s a fantastic choral conductor. Have you heard his Cambridge Singers?

Betsy
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I was not aware of Rutter’s “Muppet period”. I have indeed heard the Cambridge Singers. When I think of Rutter, I think of what we’ve sung - I love “What Sweeter Music”, “The Lord Bless You and Keep You” , “Be Thou My Vision”, “Open Thou My Eyes”, “O Be Joyful in the Lord”, and “Cantate Domino”.

Rutter follows along after Herbert Howells - another English composer. I absolutely love his “Like as a Hart” which is absolutely sultry in comparison to the English translation of Sicut Cervus.

As a cathedral choir before Father finally decided that it wasn’t a bad thing to sing in Latin, we used a great deal of English choral works. Indeed, we even used the 1940 Episcopalian hymnal for their English translations of the sequences and my favorite hymn that we don’t get to sing that often “The Lorica (Breastplate) of St. Patrick”. In the rush to use Haugen, Hass, et al, there is a whole bunch of absolutely wonderful music in English which qualifies as sacred polyphony.

But everyone once in awhile, our organist/choir director pulls out all the stops and we get to sing “Praise to the Lord”, “Holy God We Praise Thy Name”, and dah, dah, dah, “Immaculate Mary”! And the congregation belts out these hymns.
 
brotherhrolf said:
Rutter follows along after Herbert Howells - another English composer. I absolutely love his “Like as a Hart” which is absolutely sultry in comparison to the English translation of Sicut Cervus.
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I love Howells as well. The Episopal choir I sing with has done most of his sets of Magnificat & Nunc Dimittis, and they’re all gorgeous. Very lush, as you have found “Like as the Hart.”

The English composer who really, really sings the music of my own soul, however, is Benjamin Britten. I can’t even think about the *Ceremony of Carols *without getting teary, and the last line of the Te Deum, “Let me never be confounded,” is too perfect for words. And the Missa Brevis, and Rejoice in the Lamb… it’s all fabulous.

Betsy
 
So, when V II came, we obviously missed an obvious choice… I know I harp on this but it affected me deeply. My graduation Mass from a Catholic high school in New Orleans in May of 1969 had the following as the Order of Music - Entrance antiphon - “Sons of God”, Offertory - “Sounds of Silence”, Communion “Bridge over Troubled Waters”, Recessional - “And They’ll Know We Are Christians by Our Love”. Two short years from Latin to drecht. Hey, if you wanted anthems in the vernacular we could have gone then and there to our English brethren but Simon and Garfunckle? Or that abominable Muppet Music…Sons of God (so incorrectly PC today) and that other stuff we had to endure like And They’ll Know…

All I know is that I liked the Latin Mass, I was comfortable with the hymnody of the pre-V II Catholic Church and then came the revolution…
 
This is a site that was recommended to me the other day - haven’t had a chance to have more than a brief look at it but I know the guy who runs it is pretty much straight-up.
It’s downloadable and free.

musicforliturgy.org/

Tell me what you think of it - I’m no expert on music so I’d be interested to know.
 
Nobody’s mentioned Duruflé yet! :eek: What sets Duruflé apart from many 20th century sacred composers is that his music is almost exclusively formed around the Chant, which he considered to be the most sublime music known to man. It’s almost unbelievable that his masterpieces were written in the 60’s. Just goes to show that the Chant is timeless 😃 😃 😃
 
I’m also pretty partial to French baroque organ music. Chant definitely makes its appearance… there’s a nice CD on iTunes that provides a pretty good survey of the French Baroque repertoire. “L’Orgue de La Chapelle Royale de Versailles.”

My indult congregation LOVES this stuff.
 
CatholicNerd said:
Nobody’s mentioned Duruflé yet! :eek: What sets Duruflé apart from many 20th century sacred composers is that his music is almost exclusively formed around the Chant, which he considered to be the most sublime music known to man. It’s almost unbelievable that his masterpieces were written in the 60’s. Just goes to show that the Chant is timeless 😃 😃 😃
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Yep, we’ve sung his Ubi Caritas often - it’s part of our basic repertoire. We’ve also sung the Tota Pulchra Es of his 4 Gregorian compositions. We looked at the Requiem but ultimately opted for Faure’s. We sing Faure’s Cantique du Jean Racine in French

The French organist, Thierry Mechler, came to our cathedral to play the innagural concert on our (then) new organ. Wow!
 
CatholicNerd said:
Nobody’s mentioned Duruflé yet! :eek: What sets Duruflé apart from many 20th century sacred composers is that his music is almost exclusively formed around the Chant, which he considered to be the most sublime music known to man. It’s almost unbelievable that his masterpieces were written in the 60’s. Just goes to show that the Chant is timeless 😃 😃 😃
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I love his rendition of “Ubi Caritas”.
 
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