Orgasmic birth sinful

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A friend of mine had recently given birth and told me she had an orgasmic birth. I had heard of such a thing but didn’t think much of it. I had researched it a little and it does seem possible to have an orgasm during childbirth either with or without masturbation. Of course the masturbation part is sinful but what about just having an orgasm by itself? Supposedly an orgasm can be a natural result due to the occurrence of certain hormones that are present during birth and that are also present during sexual intercourse. Just wondering what other people’s thoughts are and if having an orgasm while giving birth is sinful.
 
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Having an orgasm during childbirth would not be sinful if it just happened due to hormones etc. outside of the woman’s intention.
 
Say if the woman was intending to have an orgasm as a way to deal with the pain of childbirth. She focuses on the orgasm, not in a sexual or lustful way, but let’s herself be open to all the feelings that her body is experiencing without holding anything back. Would this be morally acceptable?
 
But wouldn’t an epidural be sinful as it has been show in studies to have side effects on babies. It’s possible for babies to be exposed to the drugs and when they are, it’s been shown to make them more lethargic and have lower apgar scores and have more difficulties latching. Wouldn’t be a sin to take the chance of possibly having these babies exposed to these drugs when all the drug is used for is pain relief and not for any serious medical reason?
 
None of what you said there is actually true, so it’s sort of a moot point. But let’s say for a moment that it is true.

Is it objectively immoral for a baby to be made lethargic by medication? Obviously not. When a baby has surgery, they undergo medication that makes them very lethargic and possibly nauseous. Even so, it is more important for them to be sedated for the surgery. One might argue whether avoiding pain with medication is wise or prudent in various circumstances, but it certainly isn’t sinful.

Is a vague chance of difficulty with latching on objectively sinful? When my daughter was born, she had a birth defect that did not allow her to poop. This had to corrected surgically, but for three days, she could not eat. This made latching on very difficult for her later and the decision was made that pumping exclusively and bottle feeding was necessary for her. Obviously, there was no sin involved. Breastfeeding is not a moral imperative and if you encounter anyone who suggests otherwise you should run away with your hands on your ears so their stupid doesn’t accidentally stick to you.

Is masturbation inherently sinful? Yes. We know that is what the Church teaches. Nothing justifies it. Certainly not vague concerns about temporary lethargy and completely unsubstantiated concerns about delayed suckling, neither or which are sinful.
 
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No. Get an epidural.
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Not commenting on what i think is a silly question, but even putting it aside, your answer is either showing your age, belief in inttusive childnirth techniques, or your a man!😁
 
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I’m not a man and I have pushed out two children myself. I have a very strong belief in favor of “inttusive childnirth techniques”. I think putting yourself through pain that is easily, safely, (and ethically) relieved is pointless and foolish. But even if I didn’t, I would not recommend mortal sin in order to achieve an orgasm as a reasonable alternative.
 
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But wouldn’t an epidural be sinful as it has been show in studies to have side effects on babies. It’s possible for babies to be exposed to the drugs and when they are, it’s been shown to make them more lethargic and have lower apgar scores and have more difficulties latching. Wouldn’t be a sin to take the chance of possibly having these babies exposed to these drugs when all the drug is used for is pain relief and not for any serious medical reason?
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It is not in any way sinful for a laboring woman to attempt to relieve pain. Pain IS a “serious medical reason”. Should women getting a c-section not get a spinal? After all, it’s only so she doesn’t have to feel herself being cut open.
 
It is not sinful to have an organism birth is it is not sought after as a goal, and does not involves delibarate stimulation.

In my opinion, it is not a sin to let the things happen if it happen.

It is rare, but can happen as the organs are the same as for reproductive purpose. And if the woman is in good condition of relaxing, close to a natural birth and with highter probability to happen away to medical environnement.

It can happen to with breastfeeding.

PS: to some posters, epidural is not an adequate response to the question posed here.
 
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