Other religions believing in Jesus?

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In the bible Jesus told His diciples that those who were not against Him were for Him, even though they were not of the flock of twelve, or the seventy.
So, why is it that we catholics say that only the catholics will go to heaven, and have the truth that Jesus is Lord, when others believe the same?

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Godbless
 
So, why is it that we catholics say that only the catholics will go to heaven…?

:hmmm:
Godbless
That is not what the church teaches.The early Church held the same position on this as the contemporary Church does—that is, while it is normatively necessary to be a Catholic to be saved (see CCC 846; Vatican II, Lumen Gentium 14), there are exceptions, and it is possible in some circumstances for people to be saved who have not been fully initiated into the Catholic Church (CCC 847). Also,ewtn.com/expert/answers/outside_the_church.htm
 
That is not what the church teaches.The early Church held the same position on this as the contemporary Church does—that is, while it is normatively necessary to be a Catholic to be saved (see CCC 846; Vatican II, Lumen Gentium 14), there are exceptions, and it is possible in some circumstances for people to be saved who have not been fully initiated into the Catholic Church (CCC 847). Also,ewtn.com/expert/answers/outside_the_church.htm
Basicly this is what I am saying, so how can it be when Jesus tells us that those who are not against Him (Jesus) are for Him
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Didn’t you start this same thread somewhere else on the boards?
 
Didn’t you start this same thread somewhere else on the boards?
I cannot say however Jesus is a God of Love and he calls ALL to heaven although many through their own volition go to hell.
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You can’t say if you started it somewhere else on the boards?
What I mean is that I am not sure maybe I have started this somewhere else before but never the less it does not matter that is not the point, since I am interested at this point and time to gain other peoples thoughts information, and even what God may be teaching me at this time about the question at hand.

To me that is the point, to you I apologise if this is insignificant and would ask you just don’t reply…
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What I mean is that I am not sure maybe I have started this somewhere else before but never the less it does not matter that is not the point, since I am interested at this point and time to gain other peoples thoughts information, and even what God may be teaching me at this time about the question at hand.

To me that is the point, to you I apologise if this is insignificant and would ask you just don’t reply…
Godbless
I think you actually got far more replies on the other post is all.
 
Other religions DO believe in Jesus, even satan believes in Jesus, so my point here is not in that capacity you mention, but in that it is not whether people are catholic or not, but rather where their faith is. If they believe in Jesus and put their faith in Him to be their saviour , as their only way to the Father, then they are on the right road to heaven.

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Other religions DO believe in Jesus, even satan believes in Jesus, so my point here is not in that capacity you mention, but in that it is not whether people are catholic or not, but rather where their faith is. If they believe in Jesus and put their faith in Him to be their saviour , as their only way to the Father, then they are on the right road to heaven.

Godbless
Do you mean like Muslims, who believe in Jesus as a Prophet? Or JWs who believe in Jesus as St. Michael the Archangel, the spirit-brother of Satan, or the LDS, who have their own creative Christology? Or are you limiting your “believing” to Christians with an orthodox trinitarian view of the Godhead?

The Catholic view is that Christians who trust in Christ Our Lord for their salvation MAY be saved despite the deficits of their faith. The Church does not absolutely reject the possibility of salvation for those who, through no fault of their own, are not Catholic.

However, when a person recognizes the fullness of the faith as understood by the Church Christ Himself planted through the preaching and ministry of His Apostles yet nevertheless rejects it, he is placing his soul in grave peril.

You’re not really Catholic, are you?
 
are you limiting your “believing” to Christians with an orthodox trinitarian view of the Godhead?
Yes I am speaking about those and only those who believe in the Godhead of the Trinity.
I wrote this thread because of a few points
1 In the Bible Jesus told the disciples that those others who were driving out demonds healing etc were not against Him (Jesus)
2 Another point is that Jesus also said that "there is NO difference between Jewor Jentile.
3 Jesus also said “there are also those who are not in this fold and I must tend them”

The Catholic view is that Christians who trust in Christ Our Lord for their salvation MAY be saved despite the deficits of their faith. The Church does not absolutely reject the possibility of salvation for those who, through no fault of their own, are not Catholic.

However, when a person recognizes the fullness of the faith as understood by the Church Christ Himself planted through the preaching and ministry of His Apostles yet nevertheless rejects it, he is placing his soul in grave peril.

You’re not really Catholic, are you?
If you are asking me that question then the answer is I am very much a Catholic born and brought up that way, with NO thrills.
I live as much as possible in the “Little way” of St Therese, the little flower.
I have found that in every job I have had and hold, I work with non practicing catholics who ask me why I am so different. I can only tell them that the love of God is in me to the point where it poors out on the many I am around. .

I don’t understand it but I find that people in the hospital where I work seem to be driven to speak to me even though I may say nothing to them. This causes them to speak about many points of their lives where they leave in a state of freedome. The main point is where they ask questions leading to my telling them that I can only offer them Jesus Christ

I am a servant of God to those who are the servant of God.
To those who are lost I became like them to bring them back to the fold. I though, remember that I am nothing, and that Jesus is to become all through my littleness.

Godbless
 
quote: Godlovestrength
If you are asking me that question then the answer is I am very much a Catholic born and brought up that way, with NO thrills.
I live as much as possible in the “Little way” of St Therese, the little flower.

The Practice of the Presence of God, by Brother Lawrence, speaks to me, as well,
of the Little Way, Godlovestrength - only with more effect than do the reflections
of Therese of Lisieux - with her employment of regal imagery, which I find grating.
In terms of spiritual literature, as with much in life, chacun à son goût.

I, too, was Catholic born and bred, with all of the trills and embellishments
that festooned the passing on of the faith, as far back as 55 years ago.

In summary, I could describe myself as:
  1. born and bred into Catholicism [19 years of Catholic schooling]
  2. one who makes reference to “trills and embellishments”
  3. having an interest in the “little way,” via Brother Lawrence
Those 3 realities no more define me as a practicing Catholic
than does the reception of the local Catholic newspaper, in Thursday’s mail, each week.

The Evangelicals cheer my heart, Godlovestrength.
Accept Jesus, the Christ, as your personal Savior. He has done the work of salvation.
A works theology is not consonant with the writings of Saul of Tarsus.
For an Evangelical, it really* is* ‘good news.’

Best wishes, Godlovestrength. The only strength that I have is the strength that God gives to me. Otherwise, I’m as weak as a newborn lamb. Which is only fit and proper for one who finds
rest in the green pasture that God provides for His weary lambs and sheep.

No festooning, in the Pasture. Just soft green grass and quiet, and the Shepherd to lean against, as a lamb falls peacefully asleep. Far from the clarion cries of theologic assertion, which God spares His sheep.
He tempers the cold wind for the shorn lamb.

reen12
 
The Practice of the Presence of God, by Brother Lawrence, speaks to me, as well,

Hi, very interesting, your back ground.
I am interested in this Br Lawrence how could I get information please.
Thanks
Godbless
 
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