Our Dying Universities

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The recent riots at the University of California at Berkeley and on other campuses are the result of a decades-long process that has increasingly sought to silence opinions or facts that are at odds with liberalism. Most universities have become indoctrination centers that tolerate little if any dissent. Ideas are not considered. Rather, the usual approach is that of excoriating dissent from liberal or progressive orthodoxy with ad hominem attacks, calling those who disagree bigoted, intolerant, hateful, or (fill-in-the-blank)-phobic.
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When I read the title of your thread I said to myself, Yes, now this is important!"
Just look what we are doing to our children… so sad. We have to stand up and call them out for what they are. If circumstances were different I’d go and apply for a teaching position. I might have to exaggerate my stance on a few things to get hired…
 
Msgr. Pope is spot on. Many universities have become indoctrination centers where little dissent is tolerated.😦
 
From the article:

“It is a very sad situation, with only a few exceptions that shine brightly in an otherwise bleak sky. Be sober, fellow Catholics. Search diligently for those universities that still fulfill their mission to raise up young adults to higher and better things.”

Seems like a good time to mention the Newman guide to Catholic Colleges. 🙂

Here’s one page from their website:

cardinalnewmansociety.org/recommended-colleges/

Click on individual schools on the left side of the page for more information.
 
meltzerboy said:
There are some universities where the reverse may be the case, that is, liberalism is silenced and conservatism reigns. But I agree with you that the majority of universities are liberally minded and too many liberal professors are intolerant of dissenting viewpoints. There is not enough liberty in liberalism and in a liberal arts education.
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That’s refreshing to hear you understand that. Because up until this comment many on the left deny it and just expect everyone who doesn’t agree to write it off.

Professors and academics should allow for the debate of different ideas.
 
SuperLuigi said:
That’s refreshing to hear you understand that. Because up until this comment many on the left deny it and just expect everyone who doesn’t agree to write it off.

Professors and academics should allow for the debate of different ideas.
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Of course. Discussion and debate are in the finest tradition of a liberal arts education.
 
As someone who has held teaching positions at three universities–including two large state universities and a Catholic, liberal arts university–I find much of this blog post absurd.
 
Only liberal views were tolerated back when I attended University, 1977-1982.
 
I would not send my kids to the schools my wife and I attended. And they were catholic…
 
SuperLuigi said:
Then you’re not paying enough attention.

youtube.com/watch?v=f0G96ixwKsE
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Or the claims lack sufficient evidence.

Think of it this way. Most on this board would, I hope, reject the notion that the report that 7% of priests in Australia abused children (recently discussed in a “World News” thread on this site) would justify someone taking the position that the Australian priesthood has become a pedophilic institution. In response to such a claim, we would call this a hasty generalization likely made in support of an anti-Catholic political/religious agenda.

There are over 4,000 colleges and universities in the United States. I grant there are those small few who have made decisions or policies that one might reasonably argue limit free speech. However, there is no concrete evidence in the blog post (or anywhere else that I have seen, including the video to which you have linked in your post) that would suggest this problem extends to even the 7% threshold, let alone to a statistically significant number.
 
jesucated said:
Or the claims lack sufficient evidence.

Think of it this way. Most on this board would, I hope, reject the notion that the report that 7% of priests in Australia abused children (recently discussed in a “World News” thread on this site) would justify someone taking the position that the Australian priesthood has become a pedophilic institution. In response to such a claim, we would call this a hasty generalization likely made in support of an anti-Catholic political/religious agenda.

There are over 4,000 colleges and universities in the United States. I grant there are those small few who have made decisions or policies that one might reasonably argue limit free speech. However, there is no concrete evidence in the blog post (or anywhere else that I have seen, including the video to which you have linked in your post) that would suggest this problem extends to even the 7% threshold, let alone to a statistically significant number.
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Are you familiar with FIRE? Don’t remember what the acronym stands for but they an organization which promotes free speech and have sued several universities.

However, they do give awards for universities which promote and respect free speech and they’re able to find worthy institutions to recognize. So, it isn’t all universities.

May simply be that the most egregious make the news. Kind of like folks complaining about ‘all bicycle riders’, but really you only remember the idiots running lights/signs not the majority who just fade into the background.

However, I have two kids attending different UC’s here in Ca, and their friends go to two others. Very apparent that any opinion outside of the liberal hivemind is unwanted and will not be tolerated. My eldest went to a CSU system school, and they were more tolerant/open minded in class discussions.

Most kids attitudes are keep your mouth shut, tell the teacher what they want to hear, get your degree and move on.
 
jesucated said:
As someone who has held teaching positions at three universities–including two large state universities and a Catholic, liberal arts university–I find much of this blog post absurd.
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Which universities?
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
Which universities?
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Given the animus CAF as of late, as well as the fact that this is the Internet and basic security precautions make sense, you’ll understand why I’m not going to share this specific information.
 
jesucated said:
Given the animus CAF as of late, as well as the fact that this is the Internet and basic security precautions make sense, you’ll understand why I’m not going to share this specific information.
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Not really. It’s pretty anonymous.

I would never ever send my kids to Seattle university. My wife’s school.
I actually liked Carroll college. In Montana, Catholic but not Jesuit. Still a little too liberal. My cousin goes to gonzaga, that’s out. My sister, university of Portland. Again, not necessarily Jesuit.

The thing is that in youth ministry people can often help kids dicern. So when hosting schools at a youth group or talking to teens about choices it is good to know some solid schools. If you found the article tilted to something that was not your experience then that could be helpful to others. Otherwise your comments don’t really help.
 
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