Our mind after we die?

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In this life we have a lot of problems with mind and thinking, we have problems with memory, mental ilness, parkinson… After de die, how we know that this things will dissapear, what happend with our mind? If i have Parkinson, and i die in this state, how will ne my mind after i die? My Parkinson will dissapear when my body die, or my mind remain with problems after i die? Or how my mind will be heal from this?
 
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Becuase All things will be made new.
People weren’t born with Parkinsons.
Problems vanish. Life in Christ is what you will have and that cannot be corrupted.
 
You needn’t wurry about this, its all automatic.
Find out the HARD WAY you will
 
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Becuase All things will be made new.

People weren’t born with Parkinsons.

Problems vanish. Life in Christ is what you will have and that cannot be corrupted.
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Ammmm. About that. lets say i know a friend who has a big round belly. ammmmmm. Do you think that will disappear to?
 
Yes. I believe that people will be as God created us to be, not as the result of our faults and failings.
Do your seriously think there will people without sight, with one limb missing, and mental problems in heaven that are not fully cured and made in His image?
 
Thewwwwwwwwwwwww!!! I thought i was going to have a big round belly forever!!!
 
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No, you will get a new, resurrected body. But in heaven we won’t care anyway, we’ll be so immersed in joy, bliss, and love.
 
adrian1 said:
In this life we have a lot of problems with mind and thinking, we have problems with memory, mental ilness, parkinson… After de die, how we know that this things will dissapear, what happend with our mind? If i have Parkinson, and i die in this state, how will ne my mind after i die? My Parkinson will dissapear when my body die, or my mind remain with problems after i die? Or how my mind will be heal from this?
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The 1st POSTERS reply is correct by also inaccurate from a time standpoint.

We WILL be given [gifted] a New and then Perfect GLORIFIED Body in the “Last Day” but no one except God has knowledge of WHEN that will be [Mt chapter 25 if my memory is correct?]; in the interim; Our Human Souls which will retain their Rational nature [mind, intellects and freewills] will no longer be affected or influenced by our now decaying bodies condition.

Great question, thanks
Blessings
Patrick
 
Our personality, memories, individuality, and such (our mind) can be damaged when our brains are damaged. We have good evidence that every time the right areas of the brain are damaged, these faculties are also damaged.

So I can only conclude that when my brain is destroyed, so will my mind.
 
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So I can only conclude that when my brain is destroyed, so will my mind.
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Your brain function will be destroyed but not your soul. When soul is once again joined to body, your mind will be as good as new, only better.
 
I’m baffled by people on several threads here who seem to think when their brain is destroyed, their mind is gone too. Your soul will have your mind, your memory and everything else. How else are you going to be able to review your life with God, the judge, if you do not have a working memory? You’ll be getting a glorified mind to go with your glorified body and your glorified mind is probably going to be able to comprehend things you could never possibly understand with your physical brain.

Parkinson’s is an illness. When you die and get your glorified body, you are made whole again and all your illnesses and injuries are cured. The Parkinson’s or dementia or whatever vanishes.
 
It’s because people have a quiet belief in the superiority of scientific understanding and function of the mind. They interpret that as no different from physical brain.

For example they see neurotransmitters as responsible for emotion and mobility. Not the soul as their prime mover.

You are more than your earthly vessel. Much more. It’s just an earthly conduit for your soul.

When your bodies grip on mortality fades due to the erosion of time, you will present that failing image until death.

At which point the shackles of imperfection will be removed and you will be yourself again, yet without the bounds of any earthly impediment.

If you see yourself as merely a worthless collection of cells represented by a highly sophisticated organ (brain), you aren’t seeing clearly through the fog.
 
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So the physical processes that are involved in recalling memories will be destroyed. How does that mean that “you” the “I” that has those memories will also be destroyed? Are you not presupposing Materialism and also the idea that the physical sense of self is identical to the existence of the self?

At most all that is really evident is that your physical “sense” of self will be destroyed because that is really all the brain is doing physically speaking; it is maintaining your physical sense of self. Now if you presuppose a materialistic idea of the self-identity, then sure, we will al cease to exist. But epistemological speaking we really have no idea what happens to the self-identity after death because we have no firm grounds to conclude that the physical sense of self is identical in nature to the actual existence of the.self. Much less do we have any firm basis to conclude that reality does not extend beyond what we call physical… It may continue on in some other sense that we cannot measure from a physical perspective. Would you not agree?
 
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Did you read my post? There is actually evidence that physical damage affects our minds. That isn’t a presupposition. That’s a simple observation.

Even if our mind exists within out soul - an immaterial, unquantifiable, and unobservable ontological entity you’re presupposing - damage to our physical brains still damages our minds. So I’m left with the conclusion that our mind depends upon our brain and if our brain is destroyed so will our mind.
 
It appears that he read your post and addressed it in terms not familiar to you. I thought it made sense. Several recent CAF threads about the soul have led me to read some articles and books about the Catholic understanding of soul, and in particular what happens to the soul at death.

One key concept is that the human being is both body and soul. Without the body, the soul is not fully human. As such, it makes sense perhaps that the soul requires some kind of physiology to think, remember, communicate, and so on. When physiology breaks down, all these functions break down but the soul remains. At the Final Judgement, our souls will be joined to resurrected bodies which are eternal – qualitatively different, but bodies nonetheless, which will provide the physiology we need to think, remember, and communicate again. Throughout this process, it is the soul that retains our individual essence.

This is not unlike the idea that all the atoms that make up your body are replaced in your lifetime, and yet your biologically reconstructed body is still you.

I am still quite new to this topic so I probably have some details wrong. Oh well!
 
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Did you read my post? There is actually evidence that physical damage affects our minds. That isn’t a
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It effects our physical functions. Our mind cannot operate with a damaged brain. But to go further and say that it is our mind that is damaged (the self-identity) is to prepossess materialism. The brain is damaged and it is the brain that dies. The only way the self-identity can be destroyed is if the brain is the self-identity. I obviously disagree that you have proven this by pointing out that we are unable to function without the brain. At most this shows a relationship, a dependency on the operations of the brain to function. but not necessary an identification of what the mind actually is at its core essentially speaking. If the intellect, the subject whom does the thinking, is merely physical at its core then certainly any disruption to that physical process would involve damage to the mind. But if my mind is not physical at its core, then any damage to brain merely damages my ability to operate in the physical world and quite possibly without that relationship we will not be able to function at all. Perhaps we would have no sense of self in the physical respect. But that would not mean we have ceased to exist…
 
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Doctor Parnia, author of the book Erasing Death, was just on Dr Oz this week.

He’s an ER doctor who studied NDE’s and brain function after death, with over a dozen other physicians at other hospitals across the US.

He was interesting and shared how people with zero brain function, could still tell what happened in the ER after they had died.

Anyway, the book sounds interesting. Here’s an article about it.


Jim
 
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