Out-of-body experience and the existence of other people question

[CatholicHere_Hi]

Someone has an out-of-body experience around a crowd of people. They somehow “see” themselves outside of their body during this experience. They don’t see the crowd of people though. They are gone from the “outside person”'s perspective, almost as if they didn’t exist.

The person “snaps out of it” and returns back to their body and the people are there again.

The person is now confused and begins to speculate whether the crowd of people really exist or not.

How could the person prove that they do exist?

 

[Zaccheus]

What reason has he to doubt their existence?

If I faint or fall asleep in a crowded room the other people there don’t stop being real. I just stop noticing them for a while.
So with an out-of-body experience. Not being aware of people doesn’t make them unreal.

 

[STT]

Someone has an out-of-body experience around a crowd of people. They somehow “see” themselves outside of their body during this experience. They don’t see the crowd of people though. They are gone from the “outside person”'s perspective, almost as if they didn’t exist.

The person “snaps out of it” and returns back to their body and the people are there again.

The person is now confused and begins to speculate whether the crowd of people really exist or not.

How could the person prove that they do exist?

Interesting. I am wondering how too.

 

[ZMystiCat]

Well, for starters, the person probably shouldn’t be contemplating the existence of the crowd. They should be planning to go see a psychiatrist.

Anyways, Solipsism isn’t something that, despite running contrary to observable evidence, can’t be really proven or disproven, sort of placing it in that same category as the Omphalos hypothesis, albeit far more ugly if put into practice.

 

[ZMystiCat]

And you know this how exactly?

Perhaps “in practice” was a bit of a mistake to add since it is hard to predict how one holding to either may act, but Solipsism has a lower view of those around the person.

 

[ZMystiCat]

And you know this how exactly?

At best, Solipsism views the other person as potentially non-existent, if not going so far as to actually declare them as non-existent. The Omphalos hypothesis doesn’t naturally lend itself to that. Sure, someone could hold a really low view of people and believe the Omphalos hypothesis, but it doesn’t require a low view of people.

 

[ZMystiCat]

Actually that’s not true, even metaphysical solipsism doesn’t view other persons as non-existent. But it’s understandable how someone would get that impression. One seldom gets the opportunity to interact with a solipsist.

Would you care to explain what Solipsism actually teaches and how it doesn’t actually view the other as even potentially non-existent?

 

[ZMystiCat]

 

[Dan_Defender]

Like Descartes said: everything can be doubted, except your own existence.

 

[SpecialGuest]

We know they exist on the plane you are in. We must assume your astral projection was on a slightly higher or lower vibrational perspective where human beings can’t be viewed.