Pastor Robert and Matt 16

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You mentioned in another thread that you wouldn’t agree with our interpretation of Matt 16 (v18, I presume). In reading my Protestant sources on this topic, I couldn’t find much discord; could you please show me who you agree with?

The meaning is, “You are Peter, that is Rock, and upon this rock, that is, on you, Peter I will build my church.” Our Lord, speaking Aramaic, probably said, “And I say to you, you are Kepha, and on this kepha I will build my church.” Jesus, then, is promising Peter that he is going to build his church on him! I accept this view.
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 William Hendriksen member of the Reformed Christian   Church Professor of New Testament Literature at Calvin Seminary New Testament   Commentary: Exposition of the Gospel According to Matthew, page 647.
Nowadays a broad consensus has emerged which — in accordance with the words of the text — applies the promise to Peter as a person. On this point liberal (H. J. Holtzmann, E. Schweiger) and conservative (Cullmann, Flew) theologians agree, as well as representatives of Roman Catholic exegesis. Gerhard Maier evangelical Lutheran theologian, “The Church in the Gospel of Matthew: Hermeneutical Analysis of the Current Debate” Biblical Interpretation and Church Text and Context page 58.

Although it is true that petros and petra can mean “stone” and “rock” respectively in earlier Greek, the distinction is largely confined to poetry. Moreover the underlying Aramaic is in this case unquestionable; and most probably kepha was used in both clauses (“you are kepha” and “on this kepha”), since the word was used both for a name and for a “rock”. The Peshitta (written in Syriac, a language cognate with Aramaic) makes no distinction between the words in the two clauses. The Greek makes the distinction between petros and petra simply because it is trying to preserve the pun, and in Greek the feminine petra could not very well serve as a masculine name. Donald A. Carson III Baptist and Professor of New Testament at Trinity Evangelical Seminary, The Expositor’s Bible Commentary: Volume 8 (Matthew, Mark, Luke) page 368

The word Peter petros, meaning “rock” (Gk 4377), is masculine, and in Jesus’ follow-up statement he uses the feminine word petra (Gk 4376). On the basis of this change, many have attempted to avoid identifying Peter as the rock on which Jesus builds his church. Yet if it were not for Protestant reactions against extremes of Roman Catholic interpretations, it is doubtful whether many would have taken “rock” to be anything or anyone other than Peter.
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 Donald A. Carson III Baptist and Professor of New   Testament at Trinity Evangelical Seminary, Zondervan NIV Bible Commentary — New   Testament, vol. 2, page 78.
 
The Savior, no doubt, used in both clauses the Aramaic word kepha (hence the Greek Kephas applied to Simon, John i.42; comp. 1 Cor. i.12; iii.22; ix.5; Gal. ii.9), which means rock and is used both as a proper and a common noun… The proper translation then would be: “Thou art Rock, and upon this rock”, etc. John Peter Lange German Protestant scholar, Lange’s Commentary on the Holy Scriptures: The Gospel According to Matthew, vol. 8, page 293

The Greek Petros, meaning ‘stone’, is here linked with rock (Gk. petra). The play on words would be brought out even better in Aramaic where one word kepha lies behind Petros and petra. (For the use of Cephasa as a proper name, cf. Jn. 1:42; 1 Cor. 1:12; 3:22; 9:5; 15:5; Gal. 2:9.) The name need not have been given to Simon here for the first time (cf. Jn. 1:42; Mk. 3:16), but it receives a new significance Some interpreters have therefore referred to Jesus as the rock here, but the context is against this. Nor is it likely that Peter’s faith or Peter’s confession is meant. It is undoubtedly Peter himself who is to be the rock, but Peter confessing, faithful and obedient. . . That Peter is to exercise his authority in conjunction with the rest of the apostles is made plain in 18:18. The leading role which Peter played is shown throughout the early chapterss of Acts. . . .
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Dr. Guthrie BD, MTH, PHD is a Protestant scholar and Lecturer in new   Testament, at the London Bible College: The New Bible Commentary:   Revised edition, printed by Eerdmans, Copyright 1970, page 837
“Peter/ Cephas” (lit. “rock”) is the surname Jesus gage Simon (cf. Matt. 1618) A.T. Robertson (Died Sept. 24, 1934) was a assistant professor in Greek and homiletics at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary :Word Pictures in the New Testament Concise, printed by Holman Bible Publishers ,2000, page 74

16:18 This rock (taute to petra) The nearest referent (for the pronoun “this”) in the context of Jesus’ statement is Peter, forming a wordplay on his name, Petros. While it is possible Jesus is referring to Peter’s confession of him as the Christ (v. 16), it seems more likely that Jesus is describing Peter and the other disciples’ future ministry as the foundation of the future church (cf. Eph. 2:20). As representative spokesman for the disciples, Peter was the first to preach to both Jews (Acts 2) and Gentiles (Acts 10) the truth that salvation is through Jesus (cf. Acts 2:36; 10:36). [petra, houtos] David K. Lowery, B.A, Th.M., Ph.D. is a Protestant scholar and Professor of New Testament Studies, at the Dallas Theological Seminary. : The Bible Knowledge Key Word Study, copyright 2002, printed Victor Publishing, edited by Darrell L. Bock, Pg. 79

Thank you in advance for your honest reply, my separated brother in Christ,
RyanL
 
This post iss merely to bump up the thread. From looking at Pastor ROberts other posts, I have noticed that he tends to write in the AM, so he might miss this thread.
 
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