Pastoral practice

[filius_Immacula]

Is an eastern catholic priest at liberty to institute certain practices like using the church for group rosary or stations of the cross outside of the liturgical celebrations and various matins and the like? Could he give ashes or do st blaise throat blessings?

 

[Errham]

It’s quite common for Matins to be combined with the Divine Liturgy. Unlike in the NM Mass, there’s no pressure on priests fit Mass into the 30-45 minute range. So you end up with services that can be 3+ hours long.

 

[filius_Immacula]

It’s quite common for Matins to be combined with the Divine Liturgy. Unlike in the NM Mass, there’s no pressure on priests fit Mass into the 30-45 minute range. So you end up with services that can be 3+ hours long./QUOthats not the focus of the question n, I’m talking about the practices I listed

 

[MorEphrem]

thats not the focus of the question n, I’m talking about the practices I listed

The initial post is a bit difficult to understand.

If I understand correctly, you’re asking if an Eastern priest can publicly institute Latin devotions in his parish (as opposed to Eastern public liturgies, whether mass or offices). In sort the answer is yes as long as its not displacing or obstructing legitimate tradition (i.e. he’s doing the private devotion of the rosary in place of the public service of matins) or it is done in such a manner to coerce people into doing it (I’ve seen this done countless times, shaming those who won’t participate in the group rosary in church).

I don’t really see the reason why an Eastern priest should start a public rosary group in church, but I would say he should definitely not distribute ashes - that becomes a Latin practice intruding on Eastern tradition. Firstly, Lent begins two days earlier in the East and secondly, at least for the Syriac tradition, it doesn’t have the mournful penitential character of the Latin tradition (Maronite distribute ashes on the Monday Lent begins as a Latinization).

As for the blessing of St. Blaze, it’s the same idea. It seems to be purely an idea of import for the sake of adding something devotional which has no Eastern equivalent. I don’t think the Latin West should start writing Presanticified Liturgies for Lent or adopt the Canon of St. Andrew because a theology, spirituality and rite has a holistic character to it - one cannot just mix and match pieces because they’re nice or novel.

 

[filius_Immacula]

St. Blaise. Is in the communion of saints, should he not be venerated in the east?

 

[MorEphrem]

St. Blaise. Is in the communion of saints, should he not be venerated in the east?

St. Ephrem is a Doctor of the Church [and obviously in the communion of saints]. The fact the Latin Church does not have the practice of singing the Bo’utho d-Mor Afrem or anything of the vast breadth attributed to him does not mean he is not venerated in the West, let alone not worthy of veneration.

One can venerate a saint of another geographic locale without importing practices inorganically (St. Blaise was probably Armenian - I’m sure the Armenians themselves, who have him in their list of saints, do not do the blessing of St. Blaise).

 

[filius_Immacula]

St. Ephrem is a Doctor of the Church [and obviously in the communion of saints]. The fact the Latin Church does not have the practice of singing the Bo’utho d-Mor Afrem or anything of the vast breadth attributed to him does not mean he is not venerated in the West, let alone not worthy of veneration.

One can venerate a saint of another geographic locale without importing practices inorganically.

Okay, well can we not pray thechapletof saint jude, because that originated in,the west? Shold w not have candles and tryptchs on the altars either? One has to admit that the cause of de-latinization is kind of being pursued rather zealously

 

[MorEphrem]

Okay, well can we not pray thechapletof saint jude, because that originated in,the west? Shold w not have candles and tryptchs on the altars either? One has to admit that the cause of de-latinization is kind of being pursued rather zealously

Firstly, I never said one was completely disbarred from doing a private devotion outside their tradition. Secondly, what do candles on the altar have to do with being a particular tradition’s devotional practice? You’re making polemical false analogies now.

 

[filius_Immacula]

Firstly, I never said one was completely disbarred from doing a private devotion outside their tradition. Secondly, what do candles on the altar have to do with being a particular tradition’s devotional practice? You’re making polemical false analogies now.

Never said ya did, but my point is candlesand tryptchs are widely seenon eastern altars, yet they dodnt originate there,