Pat Robertson Endorses Pro-Abortion Republican

[gam197]

I won’t post who it is because the answer can easily be found by a search for Pat Robertson and Praise The Lord(PTL) club.

This candidate is a a front runner in the Republican party. I believe the reason Robertson did this is because he believes this Republican can win.

So now we again see a split in the Republican conservative base.

I don’t believe second tier candidates can win. The media does not allow these candidates to get name recognition. The conservative media does the same because they don’t want to water down the front runners. We do have some great second tier candidates but we can’t seem to unite to push forward one of them forward and the candidate’s egos won’t allow two of them to join ranks and run together.The Democrats are counting on this.

I’ve heard that Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity and Glen Beck had callers call in on different second tier candidates and they wouldn’t let them speak on their shows.

It is making it very difficult to really understand what even the front runners believe on many important issues and exactly what they will do if elected to office.

 

[SoCalRC]

I am not sure why anyone is surprised. I’ve pointed this out in many threads and received a fair amount of abuse in response, but when faith and politics ‘get in bed’ (so to speak), it is always faith that has to worry about respect in the morning.

Remember Bob Jones Jr. endorsed a pro-abortion republican just a few weeks ago. And the candidate’s religion is one that Jones has described as a false Christian cult.

Ultimately, it becomes about preservation of one’s political clout and power. Robertson appears to have put politics above principles for quite some time. Remember, he endorsed Harriet Miers appointnent to the Supreme Court, calling Miers “a true conservative” and “brilliant”.

I think this is why we see such a culture of hate in our national dialog. When I go to Mass each week one of the first things we do is call to mind our own unworthiness - something we again collectively state just before receiving Communion. But if I turn on, say, Fox News, I’ll hear religious language, but the message is almost wholly about the unworthiness of others. People who disagree about war “hate America”. People who disagree on public policy “hate our values” or “hate us because of our faith”.

This constant demonization works. Look at posts here where people state things like ‘calling the democratic party by its name is false advertising’. Once you have dehumanized your opposition. Basically robbing them of a correct understanding as a fellow human person in our faith, you can keep pushing the bar lower and telling yourself you are still acting rightously.

The GOP front runners are just this principle pushed to an extreme. A classic liberal may well be the face of ‘American Conservatism’ in '08.

 

[rlg94086]

I won’t post who it is because the answer can easily be found by a search for Pat Robertson and Praise The Lord(PTL) club.

This candidate is a a front runner in the Republican party. I believe the reason Robertson did this is because he believes this Republican can win.

So now we again see a split in the Republican conservative base.

I don’t believe second tier candidates can win. The media does not allow these candidates to get name recognition. The conservative media does the same because they don’t want to water down the front runners. We do have some great second tier candidates but we can’t seem to unite to push forward one of them forward and the candidate’s egos won’t allow two of them to join ranks and run together.The Democrats are counting on this.

I’ve heard that Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity and Glen Beck had callers call in on different second tier candidates and they wouldn’t let them speak on their shows.

It is making it very difficult to really understand what even the front runners believe on many important issues and exactly what they will do if elected to office.

This is really unfortunate. It is one thing to support a candidate who is the lesser of evils after the primaries, but why support them during the primary? It would be more helpful to pick the number two or three guy - at least they are pro-life, even though some think they aren’t “pro-life enough” or question whether they are genuine in their views. Robertson’s support might have helped them pass the pro-choice candidate.

By endorsing someone who is clearly pro-choice during the primaries, you have given up the fight IMO.

 

[BigFeet]

By endorsing someone who is clearly pro-choice during the primaries, you have given up the fight IMO.

I agree totally, but why are we caving into the smokescreen of political correctness by calling them “pro-choice”? Lets call them what they are…cold blooded murderers of the most innocent and helpless.

 

[Joe_Kelley]

I think that Robertson has lost all credibility as a Christian leader.

 

[LCMS_No_More]

I think that Robertson has lost all credibility as a Christian leader.

The way I see it, he never had any.

 

[SoCalRC]

The way I see it, he never had any.

He undeniably carried a lot of clout when the self-described “religious right” began emerging as a political force. But he has always been criticized for being overtly political.

I actually respect ideologs. I may vehemently disagree with the ideas, but I respect putting principles first. Political hackery, particularly in the guises of faith or science, I particularly loathe.

On a different note, “classic liberal” is not an alternate set of words I would have personally chosen in my edited post above. None of GOP contendors could really be construed as liberal. For example, only one has opposed the war and only two have opposed warrantless wiretapping and torture. Perhaps a more appropriate phrase would be “with no social conservative credentials whatsoever”.

 

[MidnightSun02]

.

I’ve heard that Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity and Glen Beck had callers call in on different second tier candidates and they wouldn’t let them speak on their shows.

What do you mean by this? Laura Ingraham was on the O’Reilly Factor last night about this endorsement. She was mentioning how many of her conservative callers are furious with this endorsement.

 

[gam197]

originally posted by MidnightSun02
What do you mean by this?

What I meant was not that Laura Ingraham was not opposed to this endorsement by Robertson but I had heard that someone had tried to call her radio show and comment about a representative from California who is running for the Presidency and that person was told she could not talk about this candidate.

I also heard a caller on my local radio show say she tried to call up the Sean Hannity’s radio show to mention a few things about another candidate who was running and she was also told - No, she could not mention his name.

My point was, “How can you even know what policies the second tier candidates are for or against if these conservative radio show hosts shut down any dialogue about these candidates?”

Some candidates use lots of their own money while many good candidates don’t have that kind of wealth to run a campaign so media becomes important for name recognition.